OXIUM -New Xils-lab synthesizer- [ Jp8 Comparison :) ]

[Lotuzia]

Tried to buy... get all the way to Paypal where there's enough of a balance... and then it fails.

I just bought it now.
I had no problem, except it directed me to the French Paypal.
Went through with no problems though.

Thanks mcnoone,

yes sometimes people land on the french page of paypal. Usually its your browser language wich determines the page.

We hope you'll enjoy Oxium

[snigelx]

What is the difference was between Glblfreq and OSC1/2freq mod destinations? I get similar results from modulating both targets.

I also inquired about Amount and Width settings you might propose for smoothest Pulse PWM using Oxiums modelled OSC. I figured you might know this exact info due to being a part of the dev team. I arrived at the smoothest result Amount 14 and width of around 36 but due to the Pulse completely disappearing at either extreme it's hard to know. I thought I would ask you before I pull out a scope plugin and analyse it. Posting remotely so not able to do that just yet.

Osc1 and 2 adress only the 2 oscillators freqs, while global adds the filter response ( so it depends on the filter settings/self osc etc )

Ahhh, yes, I hear it now. Thanks for that clarification Lotuzia. I would have only discovered it by accident otherwise.

For the PWM

1/ Its normal that the pulse disappears, its the same on real analog synths. And on many soft synths. I remember I used this on the Korgs to make some kind of sequences.

Interesting, my Juno-60 pulse's cycle does not close completely as you described. I guess it is in other analogues I don't have. I only have this one analogue to reference on. I can, however, definitely see the usefulness of a pulse-wave completely cancelling when modulated. I'm even certain I've used that before with LFO and Env modulation on a couple patches.

For the modulation : It depends with what you modulate it. If you use the direct semihardwired modulations located near the oscillators, they use the LFO( you can change wich LFO btw, 1/2/3 ) so it will depend on the waveform(s) selected for the LFO, its rate, if it have delay/fadein etc. But you can aslo modulate the pwm in the matrix page using envelopes, le masque etc etc. If you modulate it with a sinus wave (using the LFO while at 0.5 you'll get the smoothest mods, and with a square the wildest.

OK. I do not wish for the cycle to close completely because I'm trying a string kind of quality in the timbre of the PWM and don't want too much harmonic modulation during the PWM. so personally using an Amount around 36 with the Pulse at "50" setting and it sounds useful. Nice to be able to add the Saws in as well.

I like this thing. The sound has a definite charm, there's a lot of programming potential and I like the control organisation. Purchased. I am sure the developer will work out small kinks in the coming update.

Do you think we could get access to the mixer levels for F2 and Filter Mix in the mod matrix at some point?

[FYI: I also got to the French Pay-Pal payment page upon checkout.]

[Lotuzia]

What is the difference was between Glblfreq and OSC1/2freq mod destinations? I get similar results from modulating both targets.

I also inquired about Amount and Width settings you might propose for smoothest Pulse PWM using Oxiums modelled OSC. I figured you might know this exact info due to being a part of the dev team. I arrived at the smoothest result Amount 14 and width of around 36 but due to the Pulse completely disappearing at either extreme it's hard to know. I thought I would ask you before I pull out a scope plugin and analyse it. Posting remotely so not able to do that just yet.

Osc1 and 2 adress only the 2 oscillators freqs, while global adds the filter response ( so it depends on the filter settings/self osc etc )

Ahhh, yes, I hear it now. Thanks for that clarification Lotuzia. I would have only discovered it by accident otherwise.

For the PWM

1/ Its normal that the pulse disappears, its the same on real analog synths. And on many soft synths. I remember I used this on the Korgs to make some kind of sequences.

Interesting, my Juno-60 pulse's cycle does not close completely as you described. I guess it is in other analogues I don't have. I only have this one analogue to reference on. I can, however, definitely see the usefulness of a pulse-wave completely cancelling when modulated. I'm even certain I've used that before with LFO and Env modulation on a couple patches.

For the modulation : It depends with what you modulate it. If you use the direct semihardwired modulations located near the oscillators, they use the LFO( you can change wich LFO btw, 1/2/3 ) so it will depend on the waveform(s) selected for the LFO, its rate, if it have delay/fadein etc. But you can aslo modulate the pwm in the matrix page using envelopes, le masque etc etc. If you modulate it with a sinus wave (using the LFO while at 0.5 you'll get the smoothest mods, and with a square the wildest.

OK. I do not wish for the cycle to close completely because I'm trying a string kind of quality in the timbre of the PWM and don't want too much harmonic modulation during the PWM. so personally using an Amount around 36 with the Pulse at "50" setting and it sounds useful. Nice to be able to add the Saws in as well.

I like this thing. The sound has a definite charm, there's a lot of programming potential and I like the control organisation. Purchased. I am sure the developer will work out small kinks in the coming update.

Do you think we could get access to the mixer levels for F2 and Filter Mix in the mod matrix at some point?

[FYI: I also got to the French Pay-Pal payment page upon checkout.]

Thanks for your purchase and for your kind words on the sound

For the mod matrix, well several things are considered atm, including eve,tually some with the mixer, especially the mixer center Fader ( Imagine the possible morphings ) Oxium still have a few cosmetic bugs, but this time it seems we dont have that many big bugs, so we will have more time to make more rewarding things.

[snigelx]

For the mod matrix, well several things are considered atm, including eve,tually some with the mixer, especially the mixer center Fader ( Imagine the possible morphings )

Happy to hear that Yes, I -already- imagined the possibilites as I listened to a sequence with the Filter Mix and OSC2 F2 Mixer fader automated via MIDI Great potential for modulation within Oxium itself. (Before anyone should say it, yes, I know it is possible in other software) I wish to modulate it within the Oxium however

Oxium still have a few cosmetic bugs, but this time it seems we dont have that many big bugs, so we will have more time to make more rewarding things.

Also, good to hear. Haven't run into anything BIG here yet either. Glad to hear you will use the dev time on "rewarding" things. Ready to give those a run!

[Lotuzia]

Just quoting this message from my PM box as it might be of interest for those who experienced it :

Just demoing the synth, sounds exceptional(especially the filters), I now have 2 analogue synths, Mopho and Alpha Juno and this stands up to them in some respects, so I am especially picky now, I think I may buy this (money dependant) before the deal ends, one of the best VA Vst's so far from any Dev, has a lower CPU pull than DIVA(which I only have the demo of), no break up in sound on my Core Duo at all so far.

but...

The grey sliding fader in the osc section, if you move them around alot, play/hold notes then change preset it can cause the sliders to dissapear, 2 appear on one, cut the slider in half horizontally etc, I think it may be a clash with the pop-up parameter labels that are causing it, I can reproduce it buy moving them around, playing and changing presets fast. I tried to take a snapshot but the snap shot taking corrects it.

..........

Just a FYI

Cheers and hope your well...

Xxx.

Thanks Tony,

So the Fader Graphic bug is now fixed in the next update.

Also fixed : Some label/Cosmetic issues :

Master LEVEL, Global Tune (instead of TUNE and MASTER)
Some destination labels changed : "Gbl Pitch", instead of "Gbl Freq", "Osc PlsWidth" instead of "Osc Width"

[jumpercable]

Hi,

Just a small thing - the Rate/Glide Portamento section - the osc1, osc2, glide and port buttons - the clicking surface area needs a little improvement - by which I mean - you can click them, but it can take 2/3 clicks to get your mouse in the exact right area to engage them sometimes - some parts of the little blocks dont respond to clicks. I think they may need to be spaced further out from the central rate knob or something.

Best

[jumpercable]

2 other little things - I know its the case with xils too but - with the delay section, could there be a button or keyboard modifier that would move the delay times as a mono pair. (just for speeds sake instead of changing one then the other)

[Lotuzia]

Hi,

Just a small thing - the Rate/Glide Portamento section - the osc1, osc2, glide and port buttons - the clicking surface area needs a little improvement - by which I mean - you can click them, but it can take 2/3 clicks to get your mouse in the exact right area to engage them sometimes - some parts of the little blocks dont respond to clicks. I think they may need to be spaced further out from the central rate knob or something.

Best

Hi Jumpercable,

Yes a few graphic areas still need a little additional fine tuning, thanks for reminding us of that. It will be done.

[Lotuzia]

2 other little things - I know its the case with xils too but - with the delay section, could there be a button or keyboard modifier that would move the delay times as a mono pair. (just for speeds sake instead of changing one then the other)

Do you mean this as absolute ( like a link mode = toggle ) or relative : Moving by Delta changes L Delay to Xi + Delta, and R Delay by Yi + Delta, Xi and Yi beeing the current values of left and right delay time ? ( like a fader Gang mode behaviour )

Else : Its a good opportunity for me to remind all Oxium users ( or those who still demo it ) that :

In both mixers : ALT Key + Click will move all the faders of a mixer in a relative way ( Fader Gang mode similar to mix desks behaviour )

This can save you a lot of time when balancing the two mixers feedint the two filters !

LtZ

[jumpercable]

2 other little things - I know its the case with xils too but - with the delay section, could there be a button or keyboard modifier that would move the delay times as a mono pair. (just for speeds sake instead of changing one then the other)

Do you mean this as absolute ( like a link mode = toggle ) or relative : Moving by Delta changes L Delay to Xi + Delta, and R Delay by Yi + Delta, Xi and Yi beeing the current values of left and right delay time ? ( like a fader Gang mode behaviour )

Else : Its a good opportunity for me to remind all Oxium users ( or those who still demo it ) that :

In both mixers : ALT Key + Click will move all the faders of a mixer in a relative way ( Fader Gang mode similar to mix desks behaviour )

This can save you a lot of time when balancing the two mixers feedint the two filters !

LtZ

I mean absolute with a link mode if thats possible. (It would even help speed up setting stereo delays as you could then move the pair to the delay lenght you want, then tweak one sightly out of phase.)

[jbuonacc]

I mean absolute with a link mode if thats possible. (It would even help speed up setting stereo delays as you could then move the pair to the delay lenght you want, then tweak one sightly out of phase.)

yes, that would be great. i've noticed this same thing with PolyKB II and Synthix as well. not that it's a big deal, but it might be useful.

[kx.001]

I mean absolute with a link mode if thats possible. (It would even help speed up setting stereo delays as you could then move the pair to the delay lenght you want, then tweak one sightly out of phase.)

yes, that would be great. i've noticed this same thing with PolyKB II and Synthix as well. not that it's a big deal, but it might be useful.

thirded.

[cyphersuit]

i do not want to troll, but it seems from reading this thread (and others) that the launch of your products is always like an open beta. that's the only reason i never tried one of your offerings. i only jump on board when it seems that the majority of bugs has been fixed (waiting for Slate to put out an Update to VTM really).

[mcnoone]

Hi. I only see 3 authors for presets. About 50 something presets.
Are there any more somewhere, that I missed?

[Lotuzia]

I mean absolute with a link mode if thats possible. (It would even help speed up setting stereo delays as you could then move the pair to the delay lenght you want, then tweak one sightly out of phase.)

yes, that would be great. i've noticed this same thing with PolyKB II and Synthix as well. not that it's a big deal, but it might be useful.

thirded.

Lol we'll consider that