Not you if you think that the arranger track competes with ableton. That might be the funniest thing that I've read on here today. It's almost as good as "Internet explore 9, now with tabbed browsing."jancivil wrote:clearly competing somewhat with Ableton with the Arranger Track or whatever it's called. Some call it 'bloat'.
*what is hip* UNNNH.
is reason the perfect option financially
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- KVRAF
- 16733 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
No, just a common practice in social market economy.myrna wrote:"dirty capxxxxxxts" ?drez wrote:Everything is priced what the market will bear. If it isn't, then the seller changes the price. If the prices aren't changing, then the sellers feel they are getting a good deal and the buyers feel like they are getting a good deal. It's not complicated, its been this way since people started selling things.
Individuals that think its too high or to low either buy it or don't, but its the "collective" wallet that decides the price.
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- KVRist
- 220 posts since 16 Dec, 2006
So if the topic was "is Mac the perfect option financially" would you answer yes to this? I love my Mac and prefer to use OSX, but even I have to admit that buying a Mac is not cheap and certainly not the perfect option financially.chk071 wrote:No, just a common practice in social market economy.myrna wrote:"dirty capxxxxxxts" ?drez wrote:Everything is priced what the market will bear. If it isn't, then the seller changes the price. If the prices aren't changing, then the sellers feel they are getting a good deal and the buyers feel like they are getting a good deal. It's not complicated, its been this way since people started selling things.
Individuals that think its too high or to low either buy it or don't, but its the "collective" wallet that decides the price.Basically it's the same with everything you buy, be it toilet paper or software. Of course you gotta have what your work is worth, but companies like Apple show that it's not all about that every day.
But you're right about the free market yes. The market ultimately decides if a product is too expensive or not. It is how it should be.
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angelremington angelremington https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=263204
- KVRist
- 266 posts since 22 Aug, 2011 from Melbourne
No it is not a perfect option, it is an option and maybe a good option but far from a perfect one;)
Until a week ago, I've only used Reason exclusively, after trying and buying other DAW's I can honestly say that Reason is actually very expensive for what it offers.
Even so, I do not regret buying it and using it for the past few years, I've decided to get get into music making after all these years doing other things and after reading Computer music Magazine - tutorial, trance in Reason etc I decided that that's what I'll use, so i started from scratch, music theory, programming, learning the software etc i made some stupid tracks and some not so stupid ones, some were / are ok:) but anyway... Reason had a very special place in my learning curve but now when I tried and bought other software (S1 professional etc) I love it and how easy everything is and once I've tried Sylenth1 and Nexus etc I just fell in love all over again;)
Well for Reason originally paid $400+ and later lots more on refills
Studio one v2 prof. I paid $229 (cross-grade)but even if I paid the full $399 I think - personally, it is still better value for money and you can do a lot more things with it and use any third party instruments you like in it - there's also truckloads of good quality freebies out there (or small fee you pay for a CM Magazine etc)
Until a week ago, I've only used Reason exclusively, after trying and buying other DAW's I can honestly say that Reason is actually very expensive for what it offers.
Even so, I do not regret buying it and using it for the past few years, I've decided to get get into music making after all these years doing other things and after reading Computer music Magazine - tutorial, trance in Reason etc I decided that that's what I'll use, so i started from scratch, music theory, programming, learning the software etc i made some stupid tracks and some not so stupid ones, some were / are ok:) but anyway... Reason had a very special place in my learning curve but now when I tried and bought other software (S1 professional etc) I love it and how easy everything is and once I've tried Sylenth1 and Nexus etc I just fell in love all over again;)
Well for Reason originally paid $400+ and later lots more on refills
Studio one v2 prof. I paid $229 (cross-grade)but even if I paid the full $399 I think - personally, it is still better value for money and you can do a lot more things with it and use any third party instruments you like in it - there's also truckloads of good quality freebies out there (or small fee you pay for a CM Magazine etc)
- KVRian
- 652 posts since 28 Dec, 2011 from Seattle,WA, USA
I think Reason is perfect for those who want what it offers. I love and adore Reason though I am not all that into 6.5 but from the other POV I have been producing music for 10 years mostly with Reason and have generally ignored the plug in world until about a year ago. I wanted more variety in the tools I was using and I wanted to see what the hype behind more vsts really was. I tried some of the early vsts around 2005 or so and I didn't see much that they offered that Reason did not. I bought Proteus X2 and it was the last plug in I bought for a long time. Fast Forward to 2012 and now I love the variety of what plug ins offer. I think its up to the individual to decide if they need every plug in available or not. I personally do not feel that way. I am very happy with my arsenal of plug ins and the only things i am really looking to add to my setup is Maschine and Komplete standard. Then I plan to be done for some years. I have way too much stuff already but NI offers some things that are unique that I really want to get my hands on.damoog wrote:a brave topic starter i suppose at kvr but anyway...ok,i purchased LOADS of plug ins years ago and spent prolly a couple of thousand pounds worth of gear including different DAWS,i went back to reason around 2007/8 around the time of the birth of my son and my marriage,i DIDNT go back to reason for an all in one solution or to put a stop to my plug in buying habit to finance my newborn but im totally glad i did go back as ive written loads more music over 5 years and i must admit i do now like the all in one solution that reason has because honestly my money stays tight instead of the never ending buying of plug ins that honestly i prolly wouldnt need...hey,dont get me wrong there are alot of plugs ins that sound amazing such as omnisphere and diva but unless your getting paid for making music is it all really worth it?
reason continues to get better(with and without RE) and for me its a serious no brainer if ever ive seen one
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- KVRian
- 614 posts since 1 May, 2009
Komplete + Reaper (customized to your liking) seems like a better option, financially. And if you can catch Komplete on sale, I think that there is no question about it. Plus, there is no dongle/internet sign in, you can customize the hell out of it, build your own synths, it will play with the thousands of vst plugins that are available in the various marketplaces, license transfers are allowed, and the fanboyism factor is rather low.