Auria - Review from a beta tester
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- KVRAF
- 6159 posts since 4 Dec, 2004
It can handle a reasonable load but let's be realistic, it's a dual core mobile cpu so if you plan to load up with heavy third party plugs (amp sims, etc) you'll do some freezing. Not a big deal, freeze and unfreeze is single click. Get a good amp sim tone, freeze it, no biggie.
The biggest issue some typical hobbyist daw users will have will be the channel strips. You actually have to kinda know what you're doing, e.g., you have to critically listen like with hardware because there are no pretty graphic curves or tons of presets on them, but ... they actually sound good, the PSP EQ & Comps.
It's the real deal.
The UI is really responsive and the only really tricky thing there is automation. Placing automation nodes precisely on a touchscreen takes a little practice. The other stuff, scrolling, zooming, drawing selections for editing, is surprisngly easier than with a mouse.
The biggest issue some typical hobbyist daw users will have will be the channel strips. You actually have to kinda know what you're doing, e.g., you have to critically listen like with hardware because there are no pretty graphic curves or tons of presets on them, but ... they actually sound good, the PSP EQ & Comps.
It's the real deal.
The UI is really responsive and the only really tricky thing there is automation. Placing automation nodes precisely on a touchscreen takes a little practice. The other stuff, scrolling, zooming, drawing selections for editing, is surprisngly easier than with a mouse.
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- KVRist
- 46 posts since 26 Sep, 2007
Great comments, all.
I am interested in Overloud THM and its functionality. Is it equivalent in number of models and in function to its counterpart, TH2?
In other words, does it have the same number of amps, effects, cabs, etc. and does it have the same routing options (stereo, etc.)?
Are there any videos of this or could one be made to show others?
I currently have all of the amp sims available for iOS and TH2 seems pretty awesome and at 1/10th of the normal price it seems like a steal to buy Auria simply for multitrack recording with TH2.
Thanks in advance,
Marlow
I am interested in Overloud THM and its functionality. Is it equivalent in number of models and in function to its counterpart, TH2?
In other words, does it have the same number of amps, effects, cabs, etc. and does it have the same routing options (stereo, etc.)?
Are there any videos of this or could one be made to show others?
I currently have all of the amp sims available for iOS and TH2 seems pretty awesome and at 1/10th of the normal price it seems like a steal to buy Auria simply for multitrack recording with TH2.
Thanks in advance,
Marlow
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Invisiblesupermonkey Invisiblesupermonkey https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=284649
- KVRist
- 32 posts since 22 Jul, 2012
Has anyone had a chance to test out the plug-ins? Curious to see just how useful they are. Got overloud as I do a bit of guitar stuff (which looks pretty useful), but not sure about the rest.
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- KVRist
- 51 posts since 18 Jul, 2007
Just bought it. I have to say I'm disappointed that it isn't Retina, which I foolishly assumed it to be. As an owner of the new iPad I've come to expect Retina for new apps, especially for an app hailed as 'state of the art'. Older apps are being updated to Retina, and the difference is night and day.
I would much prefer a Retina option with reduced functionality compared to the current incarnation, because I don't need a gazillion tracks and plug-ins, high bitrates etc., but I absolutely expect the best possible user experience. The way it looks really matters a lot in terms of UX.
Considering that the app is targeted at both professionals and hobbyists, I'm surprised that something so crucial for the iPad is disregarded in favor of specs overkill. Retina would make it so much more enjoyable to work with and give it a truly modern look & feel!
TL;DR - Needs Retina update!
I would much prefer a Retina option with reduced functionality compared to the current incarnation, because I don't need a gazillion tracks and plug-ins, high bitrates etc., but I absolutely expect the best possible user experience. The way it looks really matters a lot in terms of UX.
Considering that the app is targeted at both professionals and hobbyists, I'm surprised that something so crucial for the iPad is disregarded in favor of specs overkill. Retina would make it so much more enjoyable to work with and give it a truly modern look & feel!
TL;DR - Needs Retina update!
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Invisiblesupermonkey Invisiblesupermonkey https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=284649
- KVRist
- 32 posts since 22 Jul, 2012
A post on the developer forum addresses this, states that performance of app is paramount and graphics are down on the priority list. Retina when tested out and had a significant impact on performance. Would rather have the performance myself, but agree it can be a little ugly at times. Seems a decent trade off considering how well it performs?
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- KVRer
- 7 posts since 28 Sep, 2011
If you value UI graphics over practical application, then you, my friend, are most definitely a hobbyist!nonseq wrote:Just bought it. I have to say I'm disappointed that it isn't Retina, which I foolishly assumed it to be. As an owner of the new iPad I've come to expect Retina for new apps, especially for an app hailed as 'state of the art'. Older apps are being updated to Retina, and the difference is night and day.
I would much prefer a Retina option with reduced functionality compared to the current incarnation, because I don't need a gazillion tracks and plug-ins, high bitrates etc., but I absolutely expect the best possible user experience. The way it looks really matters a lot in terms of UX.
Considering that the app is targeted at both professionals and hobbyists, I'm surprised that something so crucial for the iPad is disregarded in favor of specs overkill. Retina would make it so much more enjoyable to work with and give it a truly modern look & feel!
TL;DR - Needs Retina update!
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- KVRist
- 51 posts since 18 Jul, 2007
Invisiblesupermonkey, I did read that post on the Auria forum before writing the above, but it's not a good tradeoff from my non-pro perspective. Personally I'm not gonna fully use those specs, or at least would like to have a choice.
The GPU and RAM on the new iPad are much better than on the iPad 2, to enable Retina, the native resolution. If Auria runs fine on the iPad 2, why wouldn't it work on the new iPad with Retina? Maybe Auria does a lot of processing on the GPU and that's the reason? In that case I'd much prefer something like 12 tracks at 16bit 44.1 kHz, but in glorious Retina!
The GPU and RAM on the new iPad are much better than on the iPad 2, to enable Retina, the native resolution. If Auria runs fine on the iPad 2, why wouldn't it work on the new iPad with Retina? Maybe Auria does a lot of processing on the GPU and that's the reason? In that case I'd much prefer something like 12 tracks at 16bit 44.1 kHz, but in glorious Retina!
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- KVRist
- 51 posts since 18 Jul, 2007
Yes that's the word I used. Are you a professional, or does the word 'hobbyist' offend you?six one cynic wrote:If you value UI graphics over practical application, then you, my friend, are most definitely a hobbyist!
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Invisiblesupermonkey Invisiblesupermonkey https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=284649
- KVRist
- 32 posts since 22 Jul, 2012
Fair enough.nonseq wrote:Invisiblesupermonkey, I did read that post on the Auria forum before writing the above, but it's not a good tradeoff from my non-pro perspective. Personally I'm not gonna fully use those specs, or at least would like to have a choice.
The GPU and RAM on the new iPad are much better than on the iPad 2, to enable Retina, the native resolution. If Auria runs fine on the iPad 2, why wouldn't it work on the new iPad with Retina? Maybe Auria does a lot of processing on the GPU and that's the reason? In that case I'd much prefer something like 12 tracks at 16bit 44.1 kHz, but in glorious Retina!
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 2 Apr, 2011
i'd say you're in the minority on this. I'll take the cpu for processing sound over pushing more pixels anyday. Even with the UI, I'd rather it be super responsive than boast more pixels.
nonseq wrote:Just bought it. I have to say I'm disappointed that it isn't Retina, which I foolishly assumed it to be. As an owner of the new iPad I've come to expect Retina for new apps, especially for an app hailed as 'state of the art'. Older apps are being updated to Retina, and the difference is night and day.
I would much prefer a Retina option with reduced functionality compared to the current incarnation, because I don't need a gazillion tracks and plug-ins, high bitrates etc., but I absolutely expect the best possible user experience. The way it looks really matters a lot in terms of UX.
Considering that the app is targeted at both professionals and hobbyists, I'm surprised that something so crucial for the iPad is disregarded in favor of specs overkill. Retina would make it so much more enjoyable to work with and give it a truly modern look & feel!
TL;DR - Needs Retina update!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 70 posts since 11 Jan, 2012
I wrote the original review that started this thread. Yeah, it's not Retina, and I have an iPad 3, however, that being said:
I realize the absolute highest priority is sound quality, and a second priority for a professional quality DAW is decent level monitoring. Even without Retina graphics, Auria has to struggle a bit to get accurate level monitoring, and it is not as fast as most computer DAWs at refreshing the level meters.
If the trade off is between accurate level monitoring or pretty looking knobs, I'll take accurate level monitoring any day. I know the app doesn't look as pretty in person on an iPad 3 because it lacks Retina, but he started development before the iPad 3 was even announced.
In short, sound quality and level monitoring are way more important than lickable pixels. Unless, of course, you're buying an app just to show your friends how cool it looks...
I realize the absolute highest priority is sound quality, and a second priority for a professional quality DAW is decent level monitoring. Even without Retina graphics, Auria has to struggle a bit to get accurate level monitoring, and it is not as fast as most computer DAWs at refreshing the level meters.
If the trade off is between accurate level monitoring or pretty looking knobs, I'll take accurate level monitoring any day. I know the app doesn't look as pretty in person on an iPad 3 because it lacks Retina, but he started development before the iPad 3 was even announced.
In short, sound quality and level monitoring are way more important than lickable pixels. Unless, of course, you're buying an app just to show your friends how cool it looks...
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- KVRist
- 279 posts since 18 Oct, 2011
Can't believe we are discussing this on KVR.
It is so obvious that Auria is something more professional than the others ios DAWs available. And even if your not a pro, a serious hobbyist will recognize that pretty looking knobs are not the first priority for this kind of app, it doesn't even come at the second or third place of my wishlist for future updates.
Too powerful for you? Don't need all this features?
Try Meteor Multirack Recorder or Multitrack DAW.
Just want a good looking mixer to impress your friends?
Buy an iPad 2. Auria looks and perform good on it.
It is so obvious that Auria is something more professional than the others ios DAWs available. And even if your not a pro, a serious hobbyist will recognize that pretty looking knobs are not the first priority for this kind of app, it doesn't even come at the second or third place of my wishlist for future updates.
Too powerful for you? Don't need all this features?
Try Meteor Multirack Recorder or Multitrack DAW.
Just want a good looking mixer to impress your friends?
Buy an iPad 2. Auria looks and perform good on it.
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- KVRer
- 20 posts since 13 Sep, 2008 from Bologna Italy
Hi Friends,
first of all thanks Storms form all these interesting information.
I've just bought Tascam US-800 to be used on Laptop (W7) and MacBook on both using Cubase.
But, since I own also an iPad 3rd gen, I'm thinking to buy Auria as well.
I bought also Multitrack DAW, not tested yet with Tascam US-800.
Sounds to me that Auria is more "powerful" on some areas than Multitrack DAW.
I'm scared only about the issue of the all the MIC lines ON when monitoring as written in the Interface page of Auria web site. The commetns on that page about Tascam US-800 are not clear enough to me.
Since you have used it already, could you please be more specific about this item so that I will decide to buy Auria or to wait.
Many thanks.
Best regards
Peval
first of all thanks Storms form all these interesting information.
I've just bought Tascam US-800 to be used on Laptop (W7) and MacBook on both using Cubase.
But, since I own also an iPad 3rd gen, I'm thinking to buy Auria as well.
I bought also Multitrack DAW, not tested yet with Tascam US-800.
Sounds to me that Auria is more "powerful" on some areas than Multitrack DAW.
I'm scared only about the issue of the all the MIC lines ON when monitoring as written in the Interface page of Auria web site. The commetns on that page about Tascam US-800 are not clear enough to me.
Since you have used it already, could you please be more specific about this item so that I will decide to buy Auria or to wait.
Many thanks.
Best regards
Peval
Paolo Betti
- KVRAF
- 3374 posts since 28 Aug, 2012 from Melbourne, Australia
This looks like a big step up from other DAWs, however I use the Multitrack DAW on my iPad to record multiple live tracks for the band feel and then finish the song using logic on my iMac. This workflow works well for me, I don't see the need for extra capabilities on the iPad.
Happy to change if the ipad DAW could do all the things a desktop machine can at present.
Happy to change if the ipad DAW could do all the things a desktop machine can at present.
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