KVR Audio

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:41 pm

Arrested Developer wrote:
ghettosynth wrote:I'm working on an EP of 4:33 remixes and I'm having a hard time getting the feel just right. You can get wobble bass all day long for most synths but sound designers seem to ignore the more subtle genres. Can anyone recommend a plugin that would be good for this?

i don't want to be the killjoy, but if you would know what was behind John Cage's conception of this (non-)piece of music, a realistic answer to your question could be given.

Cage had the idea to this piece after he visited an anechoic room. This was a catalysmic experience for him which - facing a "total" silence - made him realise, how many noises are going on all the time, without you realize them.

While most people think that 4'33 is about "silence", it's just the opposite:
The piece in fact is not the part of the non playing piano.

Yawn, do you actually know something that I haven't read a thousand times? Each remix demands that one set the proper environment by recording ONLY the sounds that are NOT heard from the equipment SUITABLE for the remix. Get it? My god I feel like I'm in some art logic 101 class or something.

The "acoustic" piece - as intended by Cage -is all the noises going on, while the pianist is not playing.

Which of course, would be VERY different for a record. Sorry, you fail, you miss the point of recording a record of 4:33. Cage's point of view DEMANDS that the listener focus his attention on all of the sounds in the room while PLAYING THE RECORD. So putting any sounds of coughing/etc ON THE RECORD, is not a proper remix of 4:33.

So much for Mr KillKoy, aka the pseudo-expert!

Do you mind now, the true arteeests in this thread want to get back to talking seriously about this work.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:42 pm

Doug1978 wrote:If you've got a lisp, the best plug-in for 4:33 is Sylenth.

LOL, for realz yo!

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:48 pm

jobromedia wrote:Easy: This plugin.

too easy...next

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:49 pm

kylie wrote:
ENV1 wrote:A true artist would take the best 2-Osc synth money can buy, set both Oscs to Square and then offset the wave of Osc2 by 50%.

Only this way its truly synthesized silence...
way too digital, if you ask me. someone mentioned vintage silence, and that's the route to take nowadays. I mean, adding a true! vintage analog non-sounding filter with a steampunk like permament mute button that cannot be unlocked gives a real feeling of what I'd call an artistic silence creation process. and for true variation I'd even go that far to chop the whole track it into slices of 3s (that's 91 independent slices, boy) and rearrange them in a completely different order!

remember, he is really serious about that.

Ok people, if you want to get my attention here, you need to be at this level of creative! I guess we can't all be geniuses.

Arrested Developer · Post by **Arrested Developer** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:52 pm

ghettosynth wrote:..., the true arteeests in this thread...

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:03 pm

ghettosynth wrote:Ok people, if you want to get my attention here, you need to be at this level of creative! I guess we can't all be geniuses.

To be fair, 4'33" jokes were far better at the old KVR.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:09 pm

i miss the old kvr

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:14 pm

vurt wrote:i miss the old kvr

you mean when everyone was younger, or older....or the older ones where younger....or when the website wasnt covered in shit adverts and people actually had a sense of humour?

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:15 pm

ghettosynth wrote:I'm working on an EP of 4:33 remixes and I'm having a hard time getting the feel just right. You can get wobble bass all day long for most synths but sound designers seem to ignore the more subtle genres. Can anyone recommend a plugin that would be good for this?

I've got my credit card out, I'm ready to purchase!

if you need to ask, you're not up to the task.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:19 pm

Kriminal wrote:
vurt wrote:i miss the old kvr

you mean when everyone was younger, or older....or the older ones where younger....or when the website wasnt covered in shit adverts and people actually had a sense of humour?

all of this.
especially the being younger

Doug1978 · Post by **Doug1978** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:21 pm

Was there an old KVR?

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:26 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
ghettosynth wrote:Ok people, if you want to get my attention here, you need to be at this level of creative! I guess we can't all be geniuses.
To be fair, 4'33" jokes were far better at the old KVR.

Oh cmon, that's because they were recorded on vinyl.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:35 pm

vurt wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
vurt wrote:i miss the old kvr

you mean when everyone was younger, or older....or the older ones where younger....or when the website wasnt covered in shit adverts and people actually had a sense of humour?
all of this.
especially the being younger

being younger yeah...time does fly.....its the getting fat and lazy bit i dont like, but enough about everyone else

boom tish....

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:38 pm

A reliable variety of new 433 samples are supplied for free
with each new release of Ubuntu. There are so many,
it often takes a few weeks for all of them to be discovered.

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:19 pm

glokraw wrote:A reliable variety of new 433 samples are supplied for free
with each new release of Ubuntu. There are so many,
it often takes a few weeks for all of them to be discovered.

that's why you should use studiobuntu. they linked the corresponding folders to the desktop, so you'll have them in-your-face...

What's the best plugin for 4:33