Are the days of the high priced plugins history?

[Uncle E]

I rather ask people of how much income they get, and there are only a few people who earn 2,700€ a month or more. That's reality. Forget these useless "average" statistics...

I'm sorry to hear that. tbh, that's not what I experienced when visiting Berlin but maybe that's an anomaly?

[Urs]

Next time you get to Berlin I expect a visit

[Tricky-Loops]

I rather ask people of how much income they get, and there are only a few people who earn 2,700€ a month or more. That's reality. Forget these useless "average" statistics...

I'm sorry to hear that. tbh, that's not what I experienced when visiting Berlin but maybe that's an anomaly?

Haven't you seen how many - seriously - poor people are living in Berlin? Really not? Where have you been?

If you would have been in Munich or Starnberg and would say, there are loads of rich people, then maybe I could agree. But in Berlin, actually there are (too) many poor people.

[RunBeerRun]

Are the days of history plugins to be high priced?

The War of 1812 vst/au, tells a rich monologue of one of the bloodiest wars, now in all analogue sound.

[penguinfromdeep]

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I'm sorry to hear that. tbh, that's not what I experienced when visiting Berlin but maybe that's an anomaly?

Average salary is really LOW in Berlin. Nowhere near 2700, not even close. That's the truth, believe it or not.

[Uncle E]

Haven't you seen how many - seriously - poor people are living in Berlin? Really not? Where have you been?

When I first visited Berlin in 1996, East Berlin was a lot rougher than the last time I was there (which I think was in 2008 or 2009), yet even then it seemed more bohemian than run down. I've been to Frankfurt, Munich, Cologne, Stuttgart, and I think some other places, and I've always considered Germany to be a place of prosperity, development, and growth. From this American/Chinese/Norwegian's point of view, you live in a lovely place!

All that said, I do believe what you're saying and am sure there's a side of it that I'm not seeing. Similarly, you could visit Los Angeles and see nothing but 10 million dollar mansions, and that wouldn't give you any indication of what's happening in South Central, Watts, or Compton.

[Tricky-Loops]

Haven't you seen how many - seriously - poor people are living in Berlin? Really not? Where have you been?

When I first visited Berlin in 1996, East Berlin was a lot rougher than the last time I was there (which I think was in 2008 or 2009), yet even then it seemed more bohemian than run down. I've been to Frankfurt, Munich, Cologne, Stuttgart, and I think some other places, and I've always considered Germany to be a place of prosperity, development, and growth. From this American/Chinese/Norwegian's point of view, you live in a lovely place!

All that said, I do believe what you're saying and am sure there's a side of it that I'm not seeing. Similarly, you could visit Los Angeles and see nothing but 10 million dollar mansions, and that wouldn't give you any indication of what's happening in South Central, Watts, or Compton.

For the poor people, Germany is still one of the best places (because of our financial social assistance)! OTOH, you have not the chances to get really rich as you would have in the United States.

BTW, Berlin and Los Angeles at least have one thing in common: There are the most music producers of the whole country...

[A.M. Gold]

Smart company recognize the economic realities of the day if they're to continue to compete. Look at Waves. They were at the top price end for years till the economy went south and now their prices are much lower.

When iLok got hacked, Waves laid off nearly their entire staff and it's by now working with a relatively skeleton crew that they're able to have such low prices.

So how are they doing development? Did a skeleton crew do the NLS project?

[penguinfromdeep]

or 2009), yet even then it seemed more bohemian than run down. I've been to Frankfurt, Munich, Cologne, Stuttgart, and I think some other places, and I've always considered Germany to be a place of prosperity, development, and growth. From this American/Chinese/Norwegian's point of view, you live in a lovely place!

Was?! Norway is the one of the most expensive countries in the world with really high salaries Trust me, Berlin is a really cheap city compared to most of the capitals in the world. Of course the salaries are also low but food is cheap. That's why a lot of artists / djs / musicians live here since the living is actually cheap.

[Urs]

To say that the crack of a plugin scheme has an existential effect (e.g. life threatening) on sales is only pretext, always. If it was only that, why then has a certain company entrapped so many studios into committing license infringement before that, and put the whole industry in such a filthy light? In fact, I believe that the companies that run into dead ends do so by just one thing, greed a.k.a. shareholder value.

Sustained growth works by means known to only few marketing departments.

Sorry for the rant, couldn't resist

[rob_lee]

To say that the crack of a plugin scheme has an existential effect (e.g. life threatening) on sales is only pretext, always. If it was only that, why then has a certain company entrapped so many studios into committing license infringement before that, and put the whole industry in such a filthy light? In fact, I believe that the companies that run into dead ends do so by just one thing, greed a.k.a. shareholder value.

Sustained growth works by means known to only few marketing departments.

Sorry for the rant, couldn't resist

[DaveGamble]

There is no "average income" in Germany of 2,700€, that's nonsense.

Total money earned by legal aged German citizens / number of legal aged German citizens = average income of legal aged German citizens

Maths.

That formula is too complicated for me... (joke beside, of course I do know math!!)

I rather ask people of how much income they get, and there are only a few people who earn 2,700€ a month or more. That's reality. Forget these useless "average" statistics...

The mean is very likely to be biased by both extreme high and low incomes. It would be more interesting to know the median, or the interquartile mean.

Dave.

[DaveGamble]

Well, I don't know. We don't see any effect of the global economy, of market saturation or anything on our sales structure. We have surprisingly constant sales month to month, which vary about +/- 5% and sometimes spike +50% when there's a new release. It has been like this for the past 9 years with only a single exception: Once I tried not to use Google Adwords for three months and sales collapsed. I'll never make that mistake again.

I see strangely consistent sales volume too... though there's a yearly window over the top that scales things a little - people are less likely to buy things when they're away on holidays

Google Adwords makes that much of a difference? Maybe I should give that a go...

Dave.

[HeavensOnEarth]

Here's a no vote, because: multicore computing qith 16,32,64 cores are going to make new effects possible, and when companies first make them, they have to recuperate the development cost. Simpler plugins will probably drop in prices though.

With regards to rapidshare, well someone once gave me a link to an indiana jones movie online, so I watched it, not knowing much at the time. It was in Vimeo. It took me hours to get rid of the viruses afterwards, and some of them were so deep they reappeared much later, I learned my lesson. I reformatted the disk and reinstalled Windows. Some studios won't care about that, I guerss, and that's not my business, but people working on schedule for a production really can't afford that.

[mellotronaut]

To say that the crack of a plugin scheme has an existential effect (e.g. life threatening) on sales is only pretext, always. If it was only that, why then has a certain company entrapped so many studios into committing license infringement before that, and put the whole industry in such a filthy light? In fact, I believe that the companies that run into dead ends do so by just one thing, greed a.k.a. shareholder value.

Sustained growth works by means known to only few marketing departments.

Sorry for the rant, couldn't resist

there is both, professionals, who are always on the edge and so they use mainly illegal copies of software instruments, hosts and effects and professional studios, whose owners make a lot of money, where you don't find a single licensed file, but a lot of 'warez'. here on the island you can't even buy legal music software in the stores anymore.
yesterday my girlfriend's son, who does hiphop with a legal copy of Ableton Live Intro, told me, his mate and co-rapper got Live Suite 8 installed with all the additional stuff, illegally downloaded. our kid didn't complain about his 'situation'. what a relief!