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Syncretia · Post by **Syncretia** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:42 am

Anyone else here using it?

God damn it's awesome.

Here's a track I did in Nanostudio:
http://soundcloud.com/syncretia/typhoon

Of course I mixed this with headphones/car stereo and there is essentially no mastering. Also, I wrote this on the first day I started playing with nanostudio and mostly wrote it in the car so it definitely needs polishing. I just think it's amazing that I could pull this much off with an iPhone.

Some points about nanostudio that I think are great:

-Eden is an excellent virtual analog synth. It has some features which make it stand out. One of those features is that you can import samples to replace the existing oscillators. I have always wondered why so few subtractive synths allow for this.

-Simple drum synth with great 909/808 samples

-Keyboard is great to use. When you switch Eden to Glide mode, the sounds automatically slides between notes seamlessly. It actually creates an enirely different sound that you can't get from other synths. Try doing that with a midi keyboard!

-Really easy midi editing. Editing notes and parameters are really simple. In some ways I find it easier than Ableton.

Generally, Nanostudio is a great DAW. I can't wait for it to be ported to the PC/Mac. However, I really hope the designers leave it exactly as is so that we can use it the same way it is right how with touch screens.

flynsk · Post by **flynsk** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:14 am

PC and Mac

http://www.blipinteractive.co.uk/download.php

Invisiblesupermonkey · Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:43 am

Is a great app with a busy little forum and great support from the developer. I really enjoy playing with it. Check out the developers web site for some free samples and free nano sync software which compliments nanostudio. It's a lot better than you will at first fear! B

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:31 pm

Syncretia wrote:import samples to replace the existing oscillators. I have always wondered why so few subtractive synths allow for this.

They're called samplers. I don't want every synth to be able to do everything.

Derek Buddemeyer · Post by **Derek Buddemeyer** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:57 pm

Did this on iPod touch with just NanoStudio...laying in bed one night...it's actually on my first album..lol
http://soundcloud.com/buddemeyer72/new-groove

WaveOrbit · Post by **WaveOrbit** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:11 am

I love NanoStudio. It is a really great work environment. I can easily get right to making music, and being able to take music production with me has allowed me to take advantage of the odd spare 10+ minutes here and there to be productive. Sometimes it is a struggle to arrange the time to sit down at the computer and keyboards at home. Any musician/composer/producer with and iOS device should have this app.

BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:23 am

Syncretia wrote:Generally, Nanostudio is a great DAW. I can't wait for it to be ported to the PC/Mac. However, I really hope the designers leave it exactly as is so that we can use it the same way it is right how with touch screens.

Well, you don't have to wait...
If you go to http://www.blipinteractive.co.uk/download.php you will find a straight port to PC and Mac.

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:35 pm

This little studio works wonders here on iPod....Derek, I can see that you could almost make up an entire albums worth of recordings just using this!!

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:23 pm

Derek Buddemeyer wrote:Did this on iPod touch with just NanoStudio...laying in bed one night...it's actually on my first album..lol
http://soundcloud.com/buddemeyer72/new-groove

Hey Derek, that sounds really great! How did you record the guitars with just NanoStudio?

--Sean

Syncretia · Post by **Syncretia** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:39 pm

import samples to replace the existing oscillators. I have always wondered why so few subtractive synths allow for this.

They're called samplers. I don't want every synth to be able to do everything.

Just on this...

This is the kinda response I'm talking about and why I mentioned Eden in particular. People tend to think of Subtractive Synths, and Samplers as two completely separate things. In Ableton, you've got a couple of subtractive/FM synths, and then you've got a couple of physical modelling synths and then Simpler/Sampler are completely separate. I'm not saying that should all be meshed in to one. However...

An oscillator is just a wave form. A sample is really just a wave form as well. It's only because of convention that we think of oscillators as being the sound source for subtractive synthesis. We started out with analogue synths that have a few different wave forms: sine, square, triangle, sawtooth, etc. and these got carried in to the digital world. There's nothing wrong with that, but there was never any reason to not open things up and allow samples as sound sources.

For some bizarre reason, even the most sophisticated modern subtractive based synths don't add this feature even though it would not take much of a re-think to add it. Take Zebra for example. There is a round about way to use a sample as a sound source. You've got to use some external tool. There are a few presets that do it. But, for some reason, it's not a core part of the instrument. Zebra is not alone though. It seems that when someone decides to design a synth from scratch, sampling is always an afterthought unless the synth is a sampler from the beginning.

Philosophically speaking, I think it comes from categorizing all the different types of synthesis: subtractive, physical modelling, FM, sampling, etc. We like to lump synths in to these categories but very few digital synths actually fit in to these categories 100%. If you look at Zebra, it has elements of all those things. Reaktor allows you to mix and match all these things as you please.

I'm just saying that Eden is a good example of a basically subtractive synth where the designer made a point to add sampling as a sound source and therefore increased the power of the synth by a mile without increasing the complexity of the synth by a large degree. I just don't understand why synth designers don't do this more often.

Derek Buddemeyer · Post by **Derek Buddemeyer** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:19 am

audiojunkie wrote:
Derek Buddemeyer wrote:Did this on iPod touch with just NanoStudio...laying in bed one night...it's actually on my first album..lol
http://soundcloud.com/buddemeyer72/new-groove
Hey Derek, that sounds really great! How did you record the guitars with just NanoStudio?

All Nanostudio with some samples from my library....Loaded into pads, edited...quite a little time consuming project but the end result was well worth it. I use JamUp now...I just use the copy paste function and load the riffs into a pad...wish they had a dedicated track for plain audio import or recording.

--Sean

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:48 am

Syncretia wrote: I'm just saying that Eden is a good example of a basically subtractive synth where the designer made a point to add sampling as a sound source and therefore increased the power of the synth by a mile without increasing the complexity of the synth by a large degree. I just don't understand why synth designers don't do this more often.

And then users will ask for multi-samples, then better pitching, round robin, etc... before you know it everybody is demanding at least the same features that Kontakt has

peanut_gallery · Post by **peanut_gallery** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:58 pm

T-CM11 wrote:
Syncretia wrote: I'm just saying that Eden is a good example of a basically subtractive synth where the designer made a point to add sampling as a sound source and therefore increased the power of the synth by a mile without increasing the complexity of the synth by a large degree. I just don't understand why synth designers don't do this more often.
And then users will ask for multi-samples, then better pitching, round robin, etc... before you know it everybody is demanding at least the same features that Kontakt has

I, for one, wouldn't mind a little Kontakt in my NanoStudio.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:07 pm

And so it begins

Sure, why not? As long as the interface stays intuitive...
I was merely thinking from the view of a developer

peanut_gallery · Post by **peanut_gallery** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:33 pm

Actually, from the developer's view, it does appear that this most recent update to NanoStudio may be one of the last, as I believe Matt (the developer) is looking to start a new project.

That being said, the latest update did provide sample slicing in Eden, which with some math, patience and skill, can emulate multi-samples. A user on the NS forums posted a link to sliced "multi-sampled" piano, guitar and orchestra sounds for Eden that he created, and these patches are really quite impressive (though quite large as well).

I used the piano sample in my latest NanoStudio track below (I didn't do an fancy piano playing, but I thought the patch sounded pretty good.)

http://soundcloud.com/peanut_gallery-1/ ... e-a-groove