Mulabs MUX is for sale

[braj]

It is 75 euros. I'm not sure if I'll get it yet, as I just spent a lot on a new system, but glad to see it is released.

[allofdrab]

Huh, so roughly the same price as Bidule, interesting.

[braj]

Yeah I didn't demo Bidule much but found MUX much more accessable, I will try to get this at some point but the price for me is a little high as I don't think I would use it all that much. Back-burner of my wish list.

[Trancit]

Yeah I didn't demo Bidule much but found MUX much more accessable, I will try to get this at some point but the price for me is a little high as I don't think I would use it all that much. Back-burner of my wish list.

Imho, the price is far more than fair...

A few points why:

1. Even if this is the first VST release, but the whole concept is developed for long time now, so no "normal 1.0" release, which means, it is very solid and well worked out...

2. This thing sounds absolutely fantastic...not matter, what you touch...alone the oscillator can make you play around for decades, with comming up with new sounds all the time...

3. This is afaik the only modular enviroment, in which you cannot only host VST instruments and effects, but even modulate their automatable parameters with the internal envelopes and LFO's without using midi and with a user defineable resolution (in samples) plus building up your own GUI even from the controls of the VST/i

4. It is very very easy to use but nevertheless far deeper than one would think at first glance... while something like Bidule might go deeper and has more option in terms of audio recording and sequencing, for me it looks and feels too much like an academic programming surface from which I don't have any clue...

5a. A very very huge library of premade synths, effects and sampleplayer with tons of presets...

5b. With the purchase of MUX, you don't get only the modular enviroment but as well:
- MuSynth: a very flexible Instrument, with:

+ 2 highly flexible OSC
+ Multisampleplayer
+ 3 Multimode Filters, each can be routed in a very flexible way
+ Ringmodulation
+ 5 Modulators
+ 4 effect slots, which can load MUX internals even another complete MUX modular enviroment and all kind of VST/i and which even receive note trigger for inserting additional instruments

- MuDrum, all full featured Drum Instrument with:

+ 12 equal featured Pads
++ each Pad feature 2 complete Sampleplayer and one complete MUX modular enviroment, each sample player and the whole pad offer 3 additional effect slots, featured like the ones of the MuSynth
+ each slot can be routed to one of the 4 Busses, each containing 2 pre fader and 2 post fader of these multifeature effect slots
+ 4 Outputs

- MuPad, a single Pad from MuDrum usuable as seperate instrument

- MuSampla, a single sampleplayer from the MuPad

- MultiSampla, a full featured Multi Sampleplayer with:

+ integrated Multisample editor
+ Multimode Filter
+ 3 envelopes and 2 LFO's
+ 4 multifeature effect slots

- MuVerb

- Stereo Delay

There are companies, which would sell at least MuSynth and MuDrum seperate for 75,- €

6. Steady and well done developement... Bugfixes are released immidiately (if possible)

7. One of the most kind and engaged developers, I've ever spoken to...
This last 2 points alone are by far not granted in our days and are minimum worth the 75,-€

8. Native 64bit support

9...

I could continue this list endless...

For further information: http://www.mutools.com/mux-product.html

I personally find the internal sound engine not less than equal sounding to well known VSTi's like i.e. Sylenth and so on... but far more flexible...
It works very well with hardware controllers, so even as a VST/i chainer or replacement for something like Kore (except the preset tagging) it is well suited

I personally think, this is by far more than a bargain and far from being expensive...
I'll release (I guess mid september) a series of tutorial videos producing a song completely using only the internal soundengine of the MUX to proove, what I am saying here and how to work with this beast...

Hint: If you're looking for something new and something great, you should give the MUX a chance...
Perhaps, it's not looking very polished but it's sound is!!!!

Last hint: I am only an absolute fanboy and absolutely convinced of this VST... I don't work for Jo (who's the developer) or receive any payment/commission

[Trancit]

What I forgot, but what for me personal is very very important too:

The MUX is very very light on CPU and lightning fast loading...
I hate nothing more, than having to bounce every instance of an instrument or drinking a cup of coffe while waiting for an instrument/patch to load!!!

[Monkage]

Little expensive for a v1 with very few built in patches and examples
Could be one to keep an eye on if it keeps getting updated and has some useful features added, A multi sampler and drum sampler that lack randomisation and or round robin in 2012 makes them very basic instruments, one to keep an eye on but no cigar just yet

[Trancit]

Little expensive for a v1 with very few built in patches and examples
Could be one to keep an eye on if it keeps getting updated and has some useful features added, A multi sampler and drum sampler that lack randomisation and or round robin in 2012 makes them very basic instruments, one to keep an eye on but no cigar just yet

Don't look only at the internals...you'll find always lacking features in all products of this world, but:

One of most advanced feature of it is the VST integration...

If it lacks of a feature, which is important for you, just insert a VST, which offers, what you are looking for and than proceed with what you'r looking for...

For a lightweighted and easy to use and free advanced sampleplayer i.e. take shortcircuit...

[Trancit]

Little expensive for a v1 with very few built in patches and examples

You think 836 patches in a library a "very few"???? Wow...!

[Monkage]

Short circuit lacks the same features as MUX
It is far from lightweight, Probably the worst CPU of any sample playback VSTi, i own them all (Sample fiend hehehehe) Independence is about the best pound for pound in terms of features/price ratio (Excluding Kontakt sales) and TX16 is about the best for free (And way better than the samplers in MUX right now unfortunately)

Like i say right now MUX is one to keep an eye on but in terms of modulars it has very little that is not already available (Karma is currently on sale for less than MUX and has a much more capable engine right now) Reactor may cost more but is way more advanced and in terms of straight synthesis there are a lot of free synths currently that just simply sound as good if not better than MUX right now.

If pure modular synthesis is what you fancy and you can forgo the ability to work as a VST within your host (I have happily run modulars on their own computers, fortunately have a hardware modular now) then Synthedit is near unbeatable in terms of price/performance/abilities.

I know that sounds like completely blasting MUX, it isn't though, just stating that right now it is slightly wide of the mark and not as unique as you may think

[Monkage]

Little expensive for a v1 with very few built in patches and examples

You think 836 patches in a library a "very few"???? Wow...!

No need to roll smileys ? this is a discussion right ?
Yes 836 patches is "Very few" when most of those are very similar, i appreciate you love the product but others honest opinions are also valid i think ?

[Amberience]

75 Eur is a good price imo. I'm quite digging it as a concept, but need to dig further.

[Caco]

3. This is afaik the only modular enviroment, in which you cannot only host VST instruments and effects, but even modulate their automatable parameters with the internal envelopes and LFO's without using midi and with a user defineable resolution (in samples) plus building up your own GUI even from the controls of the VST/i

You might want to take a look at Sensomusic Usine then as it can host and modulate VSTs and also offers a very powerful interface builder. It is also a modular host and VST plus it can export custom made VSTs too. Plus it comes with scripting so if you need any modules not included they can easily be created

I like MuTools and I hope to see Mux develop but so far it seems very basic compared with something like Usine and quite expensive for what it is

[Trancit]

3. This is afaik the only modular enviroment, in which you cannot only host VST instruments and effects, but even modulate their automatable parameters with the internal envelopes and LFO's without using midi and with a user defineable resolution (in samples) plus building up your own GUI even from the controls of the VST/i

You might want to take a look at Sensomusic Usine then as it can host and modulate VSTs and also offers a very powerful interface builder. It is also a modular host and VST plus it can export custom made VSTs too. Plus it comes with scripting so if you need any modules not included they can easily be created

1. Usine is a standalone application, which can create and export VST's but it isn't a VST itself...If I work on a song and create my patches, I don't want to change the host only to create a preset... no competition to MUX imho, just another product with analogur features and the version you're speaking about cost 119,-€...

I like MuTools and I hope to see Mux develop but so far it seems very basic compared with something like Usine and quite expensive for what it is

And what do you say about prices for just a synth without any other functions like Sylenth1 (139,-€, and even not further developed) and many others???

If you read just the specs, I can even understand your point of view, but if you use it, you'll see the difference

[Trancit]

Short circuit lacks the same features as MUX
It is far from lightweight, Probably the worst CPU of any sample playback VSTi, i own them all (Sample fiend hehehehe) Independence is about the best pound for pound in terms of features/price ratio (Excluding Kontakt sales) and TX16 is about the best for free (And way better than the samplers in MUX right now unfortunately)

So you are awaiting features from specialized more or less 250,-€ products in a 75,-€ modular enviroment, which offers sampleplayback just as a little addon and you call the lack of it a little bit pure for this price???

Like i say right now MUX is one to keep an eye on but in terms of modulars it has very little that is not already available (Karma is currently on sale for less than MUX and has a much more capable engine right now) Reactor may cost more but is way more advanced and in terms of straight synthesis there are a lot of free synths currently that just simply sound as good if not better than MUX right now.

If pure modular synthesis is what you fancy and you can forgo the ability to work as a VST within your host (I have happily run modulars on their own computers, fortunately have a hardware modular now) then Synthedit is near unbeatable in terms of price/performance/abilities.

Karma and Reaktor and Synthedit cannot host VST, one of the most important features of the MUX... none of these are such easy but flexible to use...none of these even if far more expensive offer such a genius OSC like the MUX...
The only synth I know, whichs OSC offers similar features like the MUX one is Zebra2 and this one costs 198,-€

I know that sounds like completely blasting MUX, it isn't though, just stating that right now it is slightly wide of the mark and not as unique as you may think

It is (in some parts) unique and it will be hard to find more than 2-3 competitors...which all cost more than the MUX or at least equal...
MUX isn't meant as a competitor for (module) monster like a for 15 years developed Reaktor, which CPU performance is one of the worst I've ever seen from a VSTi...
It's a low cost product, which shall offer the freedom of modularity in a for everybody immidiately usuable way (which means it shall not go to deep) and which closes the gap between Modular and VST hosting...

The best comparison to me is Reason as a VSTi with VST support... There are internal "Modules", which can be wired more or less in a free way and combined with the strength of your favourite VST in a container, which allows you to set up you own GUI...

[Mattox]

Expensive? What do you think a fair price would be?

Honestly it's an absolute bargain!