What's gonna happen to our plugins when Windows 8 launches?

[rob_lee]

"Geek" isn't offensive just as "Nerd" isn't but some people use it that way. I'm a geek and a nerd and don't have a problem with that

Regarding Win8, I'm still on XP here and that won't change in the near future

Cheers
Dennis

Lol Dennis

I'm on W7 x64 Ultimate and have no problems here either. It's just a pain to move to something else when the setup you already have works just fine.

Rob

[myrna]

Let's say I go and buy a PC next year. It is supposed to have W8 installed, right? This means all old software should work. With MAC it works like that, usually. I mean: not the 1.0 osx release, with bugs etc. On the contrary, if I want to play new software on old OS, they obviously don't work. If new software, plugins etc don't work on the last OS i guess it is a developer's gap, not an OS issue.

[chuck death]

I'm very much considering switching early on! From what I've heard/read it looks like there could be very genuine performance advantages from switching to Windows 8 (at least from Windows 7, I've not seen anyone compare Windows XP to Windows 8).

For example, Cakewalk have been testing it and according to their blog:

The results of the benchmarks were surprisingly good! Windows 8 performed better than Windows 7 across the board in all categories, and in many cases with fairly dramatic performance gains.

All the tests above were done running the current shipping version of SONAR X1 with no special Win8 tweaks. The tests ran very smoothly with no problems noted under Win8 using SONAR X1. In fact you could push the system harder under Win8 without getting glitches in audio as compared to Win7. The tests show that despite the controversial changes to Windows, there are some significant benefits even for standard Windows desktop apps running Windows 8. This is great news for existing Windows 7 users who are considering an upgrade to Windows 8.

Link to article.

I've seen only a few VST compatibility complaints here and there and they are mainly related to plugins that I've seen people have issues with in Win 7 (recently released x64 versions for example). In fact, it seems most people are finding the current release candidate as stable as Windows 7.

With the low price of upgrading (even from Windows XP), the launch of slates and various other factors, this could well be the fastest selling OS ever. I think the Windows 8 will become the most popular/used OS very quickly indeed.

[highkoo]

Already with the 'ZOMG move to W8!?' threads..?
Give it a minute?

Remember Vista.
Value stability.

W7 is close to perfect for everyone I know right now. (Audio/Graphics/Video guys) And it didnt take long.
But I wont be schocked when the first year or so of W8 is a clusterfukk while the ansy have already committed to being early adopters.

[fmr]

Let's say I go and buy a PC next year. It is supposed to have W8 installed, right? This means all old software should work. With MAC it works like that, usually. I mean: not the 1.0 osx release, with bugs etc. On the contrary, if I want to play new software on old OS, they obviously don't work. If new software, plugins etc don't work on the last OS i guess it is a developer's gap, not an OS issue.

Wrong. With Mac, it DOESN'T wrk like that - quite the opposite. Usually, new OS versions break several things that were working perfectly in previous versions. Hopefully, that would not prevent you to work at all, and manufacturers will come with updates that fiz the incompatibilities - but sometimes you just get stuck.
Windows usually is more user friedly, because MS has a story of preserving retro compatibility much more than Apple. But expect Windows 8 to break some drivers and hardware support, just like Windows 7 did. In what concerns software, for what I observed (I am running the preview) once you get the desktop, it's basically the same Windows we already get, except you don't have the Start menu (which I miss a lot, BTW).

[whyterabbyt]

With the low price of upgrading (even from Windows XP), the launch of slates and various other factors, this could well be the fastest selling OS ever. I think the Windows 8 will become the most popular/used OS very quickly indeed.

You might well be correct for consumers (although I'd be actually surprised if it does better than Win7), but I genuinely dont think thats going to be the case for enterprise customers

[myrna]

if windows tablets will run vst, rather than toysh ipad apps, it's a little revolution among musicians.

[myrna]

Let's say I go and buy a PC next year. It is supposed to have W8 installed, right? This means all old software should work. With MAC it works like that, usually. I mean: not the 1.0 osx release, with bugs etc. On the contrary, if I want to play new software on old OS, they obviously don't work. If new software, plugins etc don't work on the last OS i guess it is a developer's gap, not an OS issue.

Wrong. With Mac, it DOESN'T wrk like that - quite the opposite. Usually, new OS versions break several things that were working perfectly in previous versions. Hopefully, that would not prevent you to work at all, and manufacturers will come with updates that fiz the incompatibilities - but sometimes you just get stuck.
Windows usually is more user friedly, because MS has a story of preserving retro compatibility much more than Apple. But expect Windows 8 to break some drivers and hardware support, just like Windows 7 did. In what concerns software, for what I observed (I am running the preview) once you get the desktop, it's basically the same Windows we already get, except you don't have the Start menu (which I miss a lot, BTW).

I don't know, I am on mac and have no issues. I am only tired of apple's stupid policy, one button idiot mouse, blurred fonts, control on everything, cheesy i-whatever and pros abandoned. I guess W8 will be more used by pros in the future, rather than mac-cheese.

[Numanoid]

Already with the 'ZOMG move to W8!?' threads..?
Give it a minute?

I thought the forum could do with some variations from the "What's best: X vs Y synths" type threads

[whyterabbyt]

if windows tablets will run vst, rather than toysh ipad apps, it's a little revolution among musicians.

Then why hasnt that revolution happened? Windows tablets that will run VSTs have been around for years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Tablet_PC

[myrna]

if windows tablets will run vst, rather than toysh ipad apps, it's a little revolution among musicians.

Then why hasnt that revolution happened? Windows tablets that will run VSTs have been around for years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Tablet_PC

what's that thing?

[Numanoid]

if windows tablets will run vst, rather than toysh ipad apps, it's a little revolution among musicians.

Then why hasnt that revolution happened? Windows tablets that will run VSTs have been around for years.

I think he's thinking about touch tablets. Maybe they have been around, but a very well kept secret, not much promotion for them

[myrna]

if windows tablets will run vst, rather than toysh ipad apps, it's a little revolution among musicians.

Then why hasnt that revolution happened? Windows tablets that will run VSTs have been around for years.

I think he's thinking about touch tablets. Maybe they have been around, but a very well kept secret, not much promotion for them

of corse i am referring to real tablets haha

[whyterabbyt]

if windows tablets will run vst, rather than toysh ipad apps, it's a little revolution among musicians.

Then why hasnt that revolution happened? Windows tablets that will run VSTs have been around for years.

I think he's thinking about touch tablets. Maybe they have been around, but a very well kept secret, not much promotion for them

of corse i am referring to real tablets haha

Please define the technical difference between what you're calling a 'real' tablet running Windows and a slate-format Windows tablet. And lets you try and use the standard meanings for words instead of your own private little definitions, just for a change.

[davidka]

Already with the 'ZOMG move to W8!?' threads..?
Give it a minute?

Remember Vista.
Value stability.

W7 is close to perfect for everyone I know right now. (Audio/Graphics/Video guys) And it didnt take long.
But I wont be schocked when the first year or so of W8 is a clusterfukk while the ansy have already committed to being early adopters.

Let us, the hobbyists try our way for Win8 because it will happen sooner for us. XP or Win7 was not perfect from the beginning, remember the times before SP1? Win8 will definitely need to go through the same.

While many people start to come with this "Vista was sh*t this will be the same" opinion, I think MS will not mess this one up. MS provided extensive developer/consumer previews, and I haven't seen any considerable arguments against the performance.

I did a virtualbox preview as well (more than a half year ago), and tried it for a small time. It was stable, smooth, and running faster than a fresh Ubuntu.

The interface is bearable, I like Metro very much. And I could access the same configuration tools just like they were on W7. I suppose it can be set up for serious enterprise use, but I don't know exact answers regarding this. Many IT guys say they will definitely skip the upgrade.