TAL-U-NO-LX. Uber accurate Juno 60 emulation.

[akademie]

Hi,
I've played with DEMO of U-NO-LX for some time and it is really nice.
I am considering to buy it, but:
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akademie

You should write a support request in the author's site: http://kunz.corrupt.ch/Support
Maybe he can help you, but there is a registration, so... I don't know.

OK, so I did

Thanx for direction, Fernando

akademie

[Crackbaby]

So there, now i've been playing around with this new synth and i must say you've done a great job nailing the feel of the original! As good as i can remember it for about ten years time that is Surely my memory has gotten sweeter by the years so this is a good grade! Just like with another synth, this aims out to emulate an original and it does just that. If it sounds good or bad all depends on how the original sounded. I remember it being a bit of a troublemaker needing somewhat of a treatment to sit nicely. This plugin is the same! It's much easier forgiving an emulation for this and most often this just expand the creative possibilities. It's like the anti-nexus

It doesn't respond to midi program change, does it? That was a bit of a downer. Maybe it does, but i couldn't get it to respond to InsertPizHere's midiProgramChange in Mux. Does it need some bank command first?

[cyberheater]

Just bought it. Sounds great.

I too over the years have owned several Juno 106's. I remember a few years back spending a evening with my Juno 106 and the TAL-U-No-62 to see how good it was. Carefully A/B-ing sounds on the Juno and the VST to see how close I could get. My Juno 106 went on ebay the very next day. The TAL-U-No-62 was close enough for me to cover the sound.

This sounds perfect.

Once question. Am I allowed to use a instance on my macbook pro and my music pc at the same time?

[fmr]

Once question. Am I allowed to use a instance on my macbook pro and my music pc at the same time?

Another question to pose on the support page: http://kunz.corrupt.ch/Support

[cyberheater]

Once question. Am I allowed to use a instance on my macbook pro and my music pc at the same time?

Another question to pose on the support page: http://kunz.corrupt.ch/Support

Done. Thanks.

[olikana]

a little quick demo in an 80s synthpop feel.
just dry, no effects apart from limter and its own chorus.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50331508/olika ... sdemo1.wav

although i adore the juno60 filter i got bored kinda quick cos i was there telling myself " i wish it had cross mod, i wish it went into audio rate, i wish it had 2 saws etc etc"
i guess i cannot live with such limited features in 2012 but what it does it does splendidly.

[braj]

a little quick demo in an 80s synthpop feel.
just dry, no effects apart from limter and its own chorus.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50331508/olika ... sdemo1.wav

although i adore the juno60 filter i got bored kinda quick cos i was there telling myself " i wish it had cross mod, i wish it went into audio rate, i wish it had 2 saws etc etc"
i guess i cannot live with such limited features in 2012 but what it does it does splendidly.

This actually brought back memories of me wishing I had a second oscillator, or VCOs instead of DCOs, when I had a Juno way back when. But now with so many other options something about the base simplicity but great sound of this just warms my little heart. I was demoing another more 'complete' synth today but kept coming back to the U-NO.

[jbuonacc]

I checked the strange behaviour of the resonance, as described earlier, double checked with my Juno-60, and the U-No-LX faithfully reproduces what the Juno-60 does.

wow.

any chance you could post a clip of this behavior from the Juno-60? i'd like to hear what it sounds like on that.

also, any comment on this?

also, i noticed that self-oscillation doesn't kick in unless the Res slider is all the way at 10. it's been years since i've had a Juno (had a 60 and 106), but i don't think this is accurate. i think it starts to come in around 7 or 8.

[Sendy]

Well I'm glad the fizzy peculiarities of the resonance *appear* to be part of the original spec. and hence probably won't be removed. You know, if I want surgical precision, I have modern plugins that excel at that. What I turn to these simple synths for is the charm of the little nuances and quirks which you can often base a whole patch on.

Trying to make many patches for this is a good exercise in creative thinking

[kimik]

would adjustable volumes for the two other oscillators be too much of a feature, i feel like i want to turn down something to balance things everytime all three oscs are on (and it's not the sub osc).

[fmr]

also, any comment on this?

also, i noticed that self-oscillation doesn't kick in unless the Res slider is all the way at 10. it's been years since i've had a Juno (had a 60 and 106), but i don't think this is accurate. i think it starts to come in around 7 or 8.

I have to check, but would need something more specific. AFAIK, real self oscillation only happens at 10, or very close to it. However, with some values, we notice other sounds coming from the resonance (I have some patches based on that). So, I would need you to elaborate a little, to allow me to seek what you mean.

I will try to record the output of the Juno-60 tomorrow, and compare it the U-No-LX regarding the resonance quirkiness.

[electro]

would adjustable volumes for the two other oscillators be too much of a feature, i feel like i want to turn down something to balance things everytime all three oscs are on (and it's not the sub osc).

Save those kinds of requests for a future TAL project. The LX was meant to be 100% Juno60 ITB and it delivered.

U-he DIVA is the option you want to look at for taking Juno / Jupiter components beyond spec.

[lionscub68]

would adjustable volumes for the two other oscillators be too much of a feature, i feel like i want to turn down something to balance things everytime all three oscs are on (and it's not the sub osc).

it that were done, then it would no longer be an accurate emulation of the Juno-60.

[fmr]

would adjustable volumes for the two other oscillators be too much of a feature, i feel like i want to turn down something to balance things everytime all three oscs are on (and it's not the sub osc).

Several requests here are giving me ideas. I think that Patrick needs some time now, to recover (it's not easy to pick a new project immediately after finishing another) but I am trying to persuade him to come later with something that would grow on this, and create something bigger. But those are only my dreams, for the moment.
Anyway, if someone wants to start another thread compiling what a "Super Juno" should be, why not? Some projects started like that.

[fmr]

would adjustable volumes for the two other oscillators be too much of a feature, i feel like i want to turn down something to balance things everytime all three oscs are on (and it's not the sub osc).

it that were done, then it would no longer be an accurate emulation of the Juno-60.

Precisely. Those can be ideas for something else, but NOT a Juno-60 emulation. The U-No-LX is a Juno-60 emulation, as precise as possible. There are some extras (like alternative waveforms in the LFO), but those are so light that cannot hurt the authenticity of the emulation.
So, the U-No-LX is what it is, and is a finished project (praise to that for what it is). However, nothing stops Patrick to come up with something else, that has the bells and whistles (and cannons, and machine guns, and ... ) that we all take for granted in a modern softsynth. Nothing except that he is a single person, not a company (be aware).