OXIUM -New Xils-lab synthesizer- [ Jp8 Comparison :) ]

[aMUSEd]

I have tested it in Reaper on my system but am not seeing this problem with any XILS synth, even with gui update set to low in options. Maybe it happens under certain circumstances such as hgh memory demands?

Thanks for the report Stephen,

I was surprised that such a thing like all Xils synths having GUI problems on Reaper when turning a knob was not reported before.

We will however take a closer look at Oxium behaviour in MuLab, and Reaper to find if there's something we can do.

I just tried it in MuLab free as well and so far no problems but I can't load lots of instances due to the limitations of the host. I'm guessing this is related to particular circumstances and systems so need more details.

[carrieres]

I have tested it in Reaper on my system but am not seeing this problem with any XILS synth, even with gui update set to low in options. Maybe it happens under certain circumstances such as hgh memory demands?

What is your CPU ?
don't you have cpu spike every time a knob is moving by mouse or automation ?
to check this behaviour, look at your task manager under the process tab.

[aMUSEd]

I have tested it in Reaper on my system but am not seeing this problem with any XILS synth, even with gui update set to low in options. Maybe it happens under certain circumstances such as hgh memory demands?

What is your CPU ?
don't you have cpu spike every time a knob is moving by mouse or automation ?
to check this behaviour, look at your task manager under the process tab.

i7 2.6 Mac Mini - no spikes that I can see, even with automation

[carrieres]

you are working under Max OS X, so the code managing the GUI is certainly different, it's not a surprise that you don't see the problem
thank you for your help

[Lotuzia]

Just beautiful



Also in Mp3 format :

http://www.xils-lab.com/audiosample/Oxi ... s_Song.mp3

Here what Boele wrote on the Youtube page ( Where you can read also a very nice minireview of Oxium he made )

" Demosong for the XILS-lab soft synth Oxium, using also the very cool modulation delay LeMasque.
Recorded in Logic Pro on a MacBook Pro 13 inch, on August 4, 2012 in Zutphen, the Netherlands.
12 stereo tracks XILS-lab Oxium
1 drumtrack Arturia Spark
various tracks using the XILS-lab LeMasque delay
A little reverb and compression from Logic."

Many thanks to Boele for this track

No one ?

[carrieres]

si si señor, muy bien tu cancion !
maybe the drum introduction could be fade in because it's too abrupt at the moment

[Lotuzia]

si si señor, muy bien tu cancion !
maybe the drum introduction could be fade in because it's too abrupt at the moment

Maybe

I find the second pad a true stunning beauty

[Lotuzia]

This is a comparison test made by Mr CoolColJ, the happy owner of a Jupiter 8, between his synth in mint condition, and .... Oxium.

CCJ Jupiter 8 Vs Oxium A

CCJ Jupiter 8 Vs Oxium B

The Jupiter 8 has been recorded thru Lynx Hilo. So pretty transparent.

According to CCJ, Oxium and the Jupiter 8 have a lot in common.

BIG THANKS to CCJ for having taken the time to make this little A/B test

LtZ

So end of the suspense,

A is Oxium. And the second clip is the real Jupiter.

Some people declared when I first posted it that they prefered A to B. And there was even a seflproclamed expert declaring that " B has this dull Oxium sound. A sounds more organic. It's " another famous synth name" or the real Jupiter "

Dont be fooled by people comments : I wasnt myself 100% sure wich one was the JP8.

It certainly doesnt mean that Oxium should sound "better" than a real Jupiter 8 : For multiple reasons we believe at Xils-Lab that the exact recreation of real analog gear incredible magic is not for today, and even for tomorrow.

Btw there ARE also some obvious differences, an easy one to spot beeing the release parameter, wich is different from the real thing and Oxium, but there a lot of other things as well.

For those who have never experienced the immediate beuty of a real analog synthesizer, and its mystery, I'd suggest that they tried one.

Then, back to Oxium. Well it seems that in a real blind test ( and honnestly we could not make more blind as we were for a long time in the dark too ) a lot of people liked the sound of Oxium

Wich is good.

LtZ

[kiezum]

I really like Oxium. The sound is good, but the best thing is how easy it is to program the synth. The interface is clear (although I would prefer that the different windows (like LFO/Masque/Modulations) are visualised as tab-styled windows and in a slightly different colour). Masque is fantastic.

When I sit down with this plugin I just want to program some new sounds and not just browse presets. I have to say I didn't listen to the factory-presets yet.

(I still like the filter on B - the real Jupiter I think it a shame that Xils Lab didn't react more tactical. Many won't buy this fantastic plugin for that reason.)

[Lotuzia]

Thanks Kiezum,

Well the similarities between Oxium and the JP8 are just a kind of happy accident, and it just reinforces a bit its "classic instruments" side credibility.

Oxium then has a lot of other things to offer, and, imho the most important, unique and musical things.

Yes presets are just presets, they can inspire you to directly write material, or can be seen as a basis, idea goldmine, to create your own presets, or can be just left aside for the most adventurous of us. You choose, and your choice can't be wrong, all options are possible-good.

LtZ

[chk071]

So end of the suspense,

A is Oxium. And the second clip is the real Jupiter.

Some people declared when I first posted it that they prefered A to B. And there was even a seflproclamed expert declaring that " B has this dull Oxium sound. A sounds more organic. It's " another famous synth name" or the real Jupiter "

Well, even if i contradict to what i said before (i also guessed that A is the jupiter-8 ), sound comparisons like that are not at all, as you also said, a proof to what sounds better and what not, and as Oxium is not a Jupiter-8 emulation, getting sound examples to match 100 % is impossible, it's even impossible with dedicated emulations. Basically, the end of the line for me, is that you can get any synth to sound as good or as bad as you like it to sound. Which kind of puts any A/B comparison with clinical precision ad absurdum.

[ChiTown24]

Basically, the end of the line for me, is that you can get any synth to sound as good or as bad as you like it to sound. Which kind of puts any A/B comparison with clinical precision ad absurdum.

I agree. I think they're useless even if the guy posting the examples is genuine.

But then, with xils-lab at least, you get trolls trying to push an agenda. I mean seriously, this has to be the most obnoxious comparison of a synth that I have ever seen;;

Envelope attack is soft - nowhere near as snappy as the competition.

You can get all sorts of snappy sounds. Besides that the ev times can be given in mms. Its very easy to get even some clicky sounds with the attack.

Here's a quick illustration: two clips - Oxium and a leading competitor. In both cases VCA and filter envelopes were set identically with attack, decay and release at their minimum settings and sustain at 100%. For Oxium the filter envelope was doubled using a mod matrix slot to allow the filter to be opened fully. A sawtooth was fed into the respective filters, which were set to self oscillate.

Oxium

A Leading Competitor

the audio files are down, but what was there were two incredibly obnoxious audio files containing a click sound - literally the most extreme settings each synth can do. How you could decipher which synth sounds 'better' at making music from those awful sounds is beyond me. And yes, I know drum synthesis requires snappy envelopes - so synthesize some friggin drum sounds if that's what you want to compare
Sorry but if you have to go to that extreme, into the realm of absurdity, to try and make your point - well, you have no point.

What next ? extreme audio comparisons that prove which synth can destroy your speakers 'better' ? And from that, we are supposed to glean that synth Y sounds better than Z ? ...give me a friggin break.

[hakey]

you get trolls

Of course, stirring up trouble is the last thing on your mind.