Not many really good new UL Reaktor Ensembles

[GaryG]

is there any chance of exhausting the fun factor of the existing ensembles?

Not really, but I iz a UL junkie...

I've only had it since late last year and haven't done much development yet but just plundering the UL has changed the way I work. Dumped a lot of misc plugins because I found ensembles that more than replaced them. Reaktor and a few choice plugins and I'm done.

[robogone]

There are quite a few that I've played around with and got some really good results with, and for the same reason as you I don't really go looking for a lot of other things. Just always looking for something different I guess.

[vurt]

ive been enjoy makebeats, but i havent been using drum samples, so ive been getting some nice f**ked up loops from it

[robogone]

ive been enjoy makebeats, but i havent been using drum samples, so ive been getting some nice f**ked up loops from it

[HeavensOnEarth]

I agree, but came to a different conclusion. I find most interesting ensembles in Reaktor are not the new ones, but rather some of the oldest ones, because at that time, Reaktor was new, and people were making things that weren't possible before. The most interesting work to be done in Reaktor now, I think, is to fix some of the ensembles written in Reaktor 2.0 and earlier which were written by very creative people, but who became disenamored by endless bug fixes and left.

[spirit]

Reaktor is still "king of weird". You could spend many hundreds of dollars on a big range of synths and still not get anywhere near the range of crazy noise generators that are available on Reaktor.

The pace of new ensembles has slowed, but perhaps that's because a lot of the obvious areas have already been amply filled out. But development still goes on and there's plenty to discover.

[HeavensOnEarth]

Whyttrabbot kindly pointed this site out:

http://aureality.midiworld.org/

Just after we published Hegel, someone made a similar but simpler modular design on a bulletin board. It vanished. I don't know what happened to it. It had some really nice sounds.

[robogone]

The pace of new ensembles has slowed, but perhaps that's because a lot of the obvious areas have already been amply filled out. But development still goes on and there's plenty to discover.

That's probably true to some extent, but I think the ones I like are the ones that aren't obvious. I've had a few ideas in mind myself, but really need to find the time to develop those ideas.

I would be willing to bet there are a lot more ideas out there than people executing those ideas. Some great builders have slowed down their output too, which is a shame as I looked forward to seeing what they would come up with next.

[Proxima4]

I enjoyed Reaktor, but I found in the end, as someone else pointed out, that most of the good stuff is kinda bundled with it, with the exception of one or two devices.

In the end, I found I wasn't really exploring Reaktor in the way that enhanced my experience of building, as making ensembles required a sound programing knowledge and I real need to make an ensemble in the first place.

I moved over to Max4Live as an Ableton user it's the best thing I ever did, I know can make racks and effects with Lives own plugins and M4L's API control that basically do all the wonderful things I wan't.

I have synths that are basically better than the Reaktor ones (Library) and getting good on the inseide of their qwerks is far better for me than trying to get on the inside of all the ensembles. I found the sample library organisation in Reaktor a pain to have to cross back and forth between this and my DAW also.

As I always have said though, theirs some talent in you Reaktor ensemble builders and I am ever grateful for the cool devices you made.

[JoeCat]

There was another post here recently where a producer discovered/rediscovered Photone. I'm thinking of plundering the legacy library.

There seems to me to be a trend towards more cinematic and acoustic sounds in electronic music production, of course likely because of the great sample libraries available, better processing power etc. It's great for producers, but when you feel like bucking the trend and getting back to electronic roots, Reaktor is a like one big amusement park. Plus, the channel strip processing. effects, and mastering tools weren't as high-quality 10 years ago, and you can really warm up those old ensembles and get something unique going throwing some tape emu and analog-modeled compressors on an old Reaktor instrument.

I think I'm going to do some "Reaktor only" tracks.

Sinevibes + Ozone, anyone?

[HeavensOnEarth]

Sounds cool. Have fun, Joe )

I'm looking forward to making some tracks too when it cools. I had some REaktor snippets feeding an OpenGL rendereer, so one could see what one was hearing. but I wasn't permitted to share ongoing work in NI's user library, as it contained my own code for functionality not available in Reaktor--new filters, some FFT functions--which we had been hoping to get from NI since promises a long time ago, I think it was the year after Core first was announced, maybe 2006, not sure now.

But I don't want to have further adversity with Native Instruments, so I can't make the software commercially available.

[robogone]

I think if I could justify spending the money on it right now I'd get M4L too, but that's definitely on my wish list.

[HeavensOnEarth]

Havng everything we want right away doesn't necessarily make us better artists, robo...it's enjoying the path towards that that matters, not what one owns now)

[ew]

Whyttrabbot kindly pointed this site out:

http://aureality.midiworld.org/

Paul's stuff is definitely worth checking out; two of his commercial ensembles (the original Padrone and Xantos) get constant use around here.

ew

[robogone]

Havng everything we want right away doesn't necessarily make us better artists, robo...it's enjoying the path towards that that matters, not what one owns now)

But I don't think it will improve me as an artist, it will just open up opportunities for new soundscapes or approaches. I make do with what I've got and have learned on some pretty crappy instruments sometimes. I almost cringe when I hear the sound my violin makes, but I don't have $500 to put towards something better.

Actually I mostly cringe because I'm not very good at playing the violin...