TAL-U-NO-LX. Uber accurate Juno 60 emulation.
- KVRian
- 727 posts since 30 May, 2007 from Barkhamsted, CT, USA
Save yourself the trouble and buy it now. Then you won't have to plan for it any more.GJK wrote:Can any one please tell me how long the intro price will last ? I am trying to plan out my purchases
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- KVRian
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- 609 posts since 29 Jan, 2004
I've read the manual but am still confused. What is EXT16 for? How would you use it?
EDIT: Okay. I think I've got it. Thanks electro.
By the way. I'm loving this synth. It just sound real. Unbelievable real. Incredible. This and Saurus is going to be all the analog synth I'll need for a very long time.
EDIT: Okay. I think I've got it. Thanks electro.
By the way. I'm loving this synth. It just sound real. Unbelievable real. Incredible. This and Saurus is going to be all the analog synth I'll need for a very long time.
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- KVRAF
- 9096 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
It is a method of advancing the arpeggiator by beats that you can set on a midi track that sends to the plugin on midi ch 16. So two tracks need to send data to the plugin, one being on ch 16 and programmed in your sequencer. It works similarly to a CV gate signal from the olden days (I started this trip pre-midi!). So instead of the arp being limited to 16th notes, you can send it a pattern of 1/2 notes, 1/4 notes, 1/16 notes or whatever, and it will advance through the arp pattern based on that. It probably will take 2 tracks in your sequencer to do this, I use Studio One and so have two tracks. But the big benefit is the arp can follow your whole arrangement, you program when it will play based on this pattern, and the second 'normal' track would send it the chords you want to play. I hope that makes sensecyberheater wrote:I've read the manual but am still confused. What is EXT16 for? How would you use it?
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
I am really interested in that plugin. How does the U-NO-LX compare with the Noisemaker, which is or at least used to be TAL's flagship? Especially in terms of oscillator, filter, and general sound quality. Of course the Noisemaker is more flexible because of FM, separate oscillators per voice, and what not, but after playing around with the U-NO-LX demo for some time today, I get the impression that the sound is excellent and powerful, warmer, especially in the mid frequencies. But maybe I am wrong, dunno. I know the Noisemaker sound pretty well, I have programmed dozens of patches for it.
As far as that comparison between plugin and original, it will never be exactly the same, and who cares? If anything in the plugin is better than in the original hardware, even better
Also, I did manage to save some nice presets I programmed via the save preset button of my DAW. Sure, I cannot load them anymore, but can I load them again once I buy a license? If not, no problem, I can easily recreate them I suppose, but it would save time
Those "square" buttons do look a bit odd. You really have to have 20/20 vision to see the shadow or depth of the button
When will the 35$ offer period end? Having a hard time deciding which synth to buy, there are two others on my mind, all in a similar price range, so I have to do more testing before I buy anything.
By the way, 70$ seems a bit much for such a simple synth emulation. I know it is a lot of work, still I guess not too many people will be willing to pay more than 50$ for it, at best. Just saying... Maybe it would be better to charge a small amount for your other products as well, else people might wonder why they should pay 70$ for the U-NO, when they can have the Noisemaker for free. The difference is certainly not that great.
As far as that comparison between plugin and original, it will never be exactly the same, and who cares? If anything in the plugin is better than in the original hardware, even better
Also, I did manage to save some nice presets I programmed via the save preset button of my DAW. Sure, I cannot load them anymore, but can I load them again once I buy a license? If not, no problem, I can easily recreate them I suppose, but it would save time
Those "square" buttons do look a bit odd. You really have to have 20/20 vision to see the shadow or depth of the button
When will the 35$ offer period end? Having a hard time deciding which synth to buy, there are two others on my mind, all in a similar price range, so I have to do more testing before I buy anything.
By the way, 70$ seems a bit much for such a simple synth emulation. I know it is a lot of work, still I guess not too many people will be willing to pay more than 50$ for it, at best. Just saying... Maybe it would be better to charge a small amount for your other products as well, else people might wonder why they should pay 70$ for the U-NO, when they can have the Noisemaker for free. The difference is certainly not that great.
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- KVRAF
- 5510 posts since 6 May, 2002
are you kidding? $70.00 for the best VA representation of an Analog synth is a giveaway. TAL-Uno-LX is the complete equivalent of the Juno 60 and still cheaper than similar VA emulations from other developers.fluffy_little_something wrote:By the way, 70$ seems a bit much for such a simple synth emulation.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Well, frankly, many emulations are not worth their price, like the overrated Arturia stuff. And some more complex emulations like Memory Moon's ME80 only cost 40$. I am not saying 70$ is inappropriate in absolute terms, but in relative terms I guess many will ask themselves if a Juno clone is worth 70 bucks, the competition and availability of free software have led to lower prices, which I agree might be a problem for developers. I will likely buy it for 35$, but not for 70$.electro wrote:are you kidding? $70.00 for the best VA representation of an Analog synth is a giveaway. TAL-Uno-LX is the complete equivalent of the Juno 60 and still cheaper than similar VA emulations from other developers.fluffy_little_something wrote:By the way, 70$ seems a bit much for such a simple synth emulation.
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
Buy it now then
This is one of the benefits of being a KvR-junkie .. You may buy a lot of instruments and effects but you never miss an introduction offer
There's a lot of synths and effects i wouldn't have bought if it wasn't for them.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Hehe, I can't make up my mind yet. Although it is quite a different synth, I am also interested in G-Sonique's Renegade. Or maybe I should get both, there are promotions currently for both of themCrackbaby wrote:Buy it now thenThis is one of the benefits of being a KvR-junkie .. You may buy a lot of instruments and effects but you never miss an introduction offer
There's a lot of synths and effects i wouldn't have bought if it wasn't for them.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Is it just me or is there a darker area along the scale of the filter cutoff, as if the color had already worn off because of all the tweaking with the fingers
Anyway, amazing which spectrum of sounds that simple synth can produce in good quality. It certainly was an ingenious concept on the part of Roland to begin with
Anyway, amazing which spectrum of sounds that simple synth can produce in good quality. It certainly was an ingenious concept on the part of Roland to begin with
- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
Memorymoon is a great synth, as well as the other two from Gunnar, but:fluffy_little_something wrote:Well, frankly, many emulations are not worth their price, like the overrated Arturia stuff. And some more complex emulations like Memory Moon's ME80 only cost 40$. I am not saying 70$ is inappropriate in absolute terms, but in relative terms I guess many will ask themselves if a Juno clone is worth 70 bucks, the competition and availability of free software have led to lower prices, which I agree might be a problem for developers. I will likely buy it for 35$, but not for 70$.electro wrote:are you kidding? $70.00 for the best VA representation of an Analog synth is a giveaway. TAL-Uno-LX is the complete equivalent of the Juno 60 and still cheaper than similar VA emulations from other developers.fluffy_little_something wrote:By the way, 70$ seems a bit much for such a simple synth emulation.
A: Is not a completely faithful emulation (neither of them is).
B: Is based in SynthEdit, with all the problems that carries (for example, my anti-virus insists that the spring.sem module is malware, and they don't seem to solve that problem - recently, it even quarantined the installer for memorymoon, because it detected what it considered malware on that).
C: It isn't 64-bit, nor is it Mac compatible.
So, one may say that 40,00 for ME80 is equivalent to 70,00 for the U-No-LX. And right now it only costs 35,00
Regarding the fact that the Arturia stuff is overrated, that's your opinion. I have a different one. For 99,00 each, I consider them a bargain. What about that?
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- KVRAF
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
I have Memorymoon as well, and it is a good synth. It has more features than the U-NO-LX (you know Alex?), but doesn't have the same class of sound quality. I'm not sure I'd pay 70$ for it, either, but that's what KVR is for 
I think ultimately, it IS worth the asking price, but a lot of synth junkies may already have the analog saws and squares covered from all sides, making it less appealing to them price-wise.
I must say, I'm suprised at just how many sounds I've made for it, and how quickly time passes with it.
I think ultimately, it IS worth the asking price, but a lot of synth junkies may already have the analog saws and squares covered from all sides, making it less appealing to them price-wise.
I must say, I'm suprised at just how many sounds I've made for it, and how quickly time passes with it.
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- KVRAF
- 5510 posts since 6 May, 2002
JRR Shop has the Arturia synths for much less than $99.00
Memorymoon ME80 is very cheap and no x64 Native due to Synthedit, but still worth the asking price.
TAL-LX launces at basically the same price as Memorymoon ME80, yet its fully x64 compatible and highly polished soundwise. Total cost of ME80 + TAL-Uno-LX is $75.00, a total bargain. I don't see how anybody can complain about prices this low.
Memorymoon ME80 is very cheap and no x64 Native due to Synthedit, but still worth the asking price.
TAL-LX launces at basically the same price as Memorymoon ME80, yet its fully x64 compatible and highly polished soundwise. Total cost of ME80 + TAL-Uno-LX is $75.00, a total bargain. I don't see how anybody can complain about prices this low.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
I am NOT complaining about the price. I would be willing to pay those 70$ for a great synth if I wanted to. I just said that I would not pay 70$ for a Juno emulation (no matter how good) as it seems a bit exaggerated to me these days, not in absolute terms (i.e. I know developing such stuff is quite a lot of work and developers deserve just compensation), but in relative terms (comparing what a Juno emulation has to offer with what other soft synths out there have to offer, other synths that might be sold too cheap, frankly). I was strictly speaking from a buyer's perspective looking at the marketplace.electro wrote:JRR Shop has the Arturia synths for much less than $99.00
Memorymoon ME80 is very cheap and no x64 Native due to Synthedit, but still worth the asking price.
TAL-LX launces at basically the same price as Memorymoon ME80, yet its fully x64 compatible and highly polished soundwise. Total cost of ME80 + TAL-Uno-LX is $75.00, a total bargain. I don't see how anybody can complain about prices this low.
And again, even TAL's own Noisemaker is more flexible and offers about the same sound quality in my view. I have read reviews where they said it can easily compete with commercial synths, and after programming dozens of patches for it myself, I can confirm that, it has become my default synth. Still, it is free. So, somehow the U-NO-LX will mess up TAL's offering in terms of prices. That's all I am saying. How about a TAL license instead, say, for 25 dollars, which allows you to download and use any and all TAL products. This way they would probably earn more (given the number of people using the free stuff; and 25$ would still be a huge bargain) and the money would not be tied to a specific product.
I agree that the ME80 is not of the same quality, still, it must have been a lot of work to create. I have an ME80 license, but I don't use it, I prefer Noisemaker, frankly, it sounds better (in terms of audio quality) and is much more light-weight on my computer, not to mention easier to understand
While I do think the U-NO-LX sounds great for such a simple design, I wish TAL had picked a different hardware synth to emulate. I love TAL's stuff and no matter which synth they emulate, I am sure it will be pretty good. For instance, an Oberheim Matrix 12 emulation would have been interesting
