Hey guys I don't know if you heard this remix from tom staar "African Drop" that kick i just simply amazing it's the kick of my dreams... just want to know if it's just a sample you've heard from vengeance or where can i find a similar kick drum
I've already listened to vengeance VES1 and VES2 it's not in there nor a similar one :s
Tom Staar - African Drop (Perfect Kick Drum)
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- KVRist
- 78 posts since 7 Feb, 2011 from The Netherlands
I will give you a useful advice from my experience.
Unlike many people say here, those sounds in those big electronic tracks are not 'just vengeance samples' and you will not get them by 'just some EQ and compression'.
Those good samples are very rare. That's also why all those producers use the same sounds and sample each other.
There are only 2 ways to get those sounds:
1: Create them yourself with a (kickdrum) synthesizer and layering. (But this is really difficult and you will need much experience to create the same sound as in your head. I bet most of those popular producers can't even do this. But it's still useful to practice. Once you master it, you can make everything you want and take it to the next level.)
2: Just sample. In your this is relatively easy, because you can hear the kickdrum solo at 5:00 of the track.
For your interest, this is the origin of that kickdrum.
I first heard it in this track from SHM, but I'm quite sure it was also used in other tracks before. I don't think SHM made it theirself.
There was a sample pack available for a remix competition of that track. I think Afrojack for example downloaded that and used the samples. This is a track with the same kickdrum. He lowered only the pitch a little bit. He uses that one in all of his tracks.
Here another one, with David Guetta.
From that moment Guetta also started using it. Here is a track with the same Afrojack kickdrum for example:
And these days you will hear it in every track. Sometimes with a little different pitch or layered with a top kick with more 'click'.
And I think that kickdrum is also used in your example. I'm not really sure because i don't have good headphones here, but it sounds almost the same.
Sorry for the long post, it is a little bit off-topic, but i think it is important to know when you are producing this kind of music. I wasted a lot of time myself trying to get better sounds with compression and EQ, but at the end it is all about the samples and instruments itself. A compressor will change the volume, it will not make an entire new sound. Equalizers the same.
The most important thing is to learn to listen really good, so you know which sounds you should use or not.
But I would search for a new kickdrum because this one is already used in 10.000 tracks.
Unlike many people say here, those sounds in those big electronic tracks are not 'just vengeance samples' and you will not get them by 'just some EQ and compression'.
Those good samples are very rare. That's also why all those producers use the same sounds and sample each other.
There are only 2 ways to get those sounds:
1: Create them yourself with a (kickdrum) synthesizer and layering. (But this is really difficult and you will need much experience to create the same sound as in your head. I bet most of those popular producers can't even do this. But it's still useful to practice. Once you master it, you can make everything you want and take it to the next level.)
2: Just sample. In your this is relatively easy, because you can hear the kickdrum solo at 5:00 of the track.
For your interest, this is the origin of that kickdrum.
I first heard it in this track from SHM, but I'm quite sure it was also used in other tracks before. I don't think SHM made it theirself.
There was a sample pack available for a remix competition of that track. I think Afrojack for example downloaded that and used the samples. This is a track with the same kickdrum. He lowered only the pitch a little bit. He uses that one in all of his tracks.
Here another one, with David Guetta.
From that moment Guetta also started using it. Here is a track with the same Afrojack kickdrum for example:
And these days you will hear it in every track. Sometimes with a little different pitch or layered with a top kick with more 'click'.
And I think that kickdrum is also used in your example. I'm not really sure because i don't have good headphones here, but it sounds almost the same.
Sorry for the long post, it is a little bit off-topic, but i think it is important to know when you are producing this kind of music. I wasted a lot of time myself trying to get better sounds with compression and EQ, but at the end it is all about the samples and instruments itself. A compressor will change the volume, it will not make an entire new sound. Equalizers the same.
The most important thing is to learn to listen really good, so you know which sounds you should use or not.
But I would search for a new kickdrum because this one is already used in 10.000 tracks.
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- KVRist
- 89 posts since 2 Jan, 2012
I'm a big Kickdrum sucker myself, and i have to say that this is one of the most useful posts about kickdrums that you will find here. The LTWB kick was ineed made by SHM, i read somewhere that Axwell was the one responsible for it.[0_0] wrote:I will give you a useful advice from my experience.
Unlike many people say here, those sounds in those big electronic tracks are not 'just vengeance samples' and you will not get them by 'just some EQ and compression'.
Those good samples are very rare. That's also why all those producers use the same sounds and sample each other.
There are only 2 ways to get those sounds:
1: Create them yourself with a (kickdrum) synthesizer and layering. (But this is really difficult and you will need much experience to create the same sound as in your head. I bet most of those popular producers can't even do this. But it's still useful to practice. Once you master it, you can make everything you want and take it to the next level.)
2: Just sample. In your this is relatively easy, because you can hear the kickdrum solo at 5:00 of the track.
For your interest, this is the origin of that kickdrum.
I first heard it in this track from SHM, but I'm quite sure it was also used in other tracks before. I don't think SHM made it theirself.
There was a sample pack available for a remix competition of that track. I think Afrojack for example downloaded that and used the samples. This is a track with the same kickdrum. He lowered only the pitch a little bit. He uses that one in all of his tracks.
Here another one, with David Guetta.
From that moment Guetta also started using it. Here is a track with the same Afrojack kickdrum for example:
And these days you will hear it in every track. Sometimes with a little different pitch or layered with a top kick with more 'click'.
And I think that kickdrum is also used in your example. I'm not really sure because i don't have good headphones here, but it sounds almost the same.
Sorry for the long post, it is a little bit off-topic, but i think it is important to know when you are producing this kind of music. I wasted a lot of time myself trying to get better sounds with compression and EQ, but at the end it is all about the samples and instruments itself. A compressor will change the volume, it will not make an entire new sound. Equalizers the same.
The most important thing is to learn to listen really good, so you know which sounds you should use or not.
But I would search for a new kickdrum because this one is already used in 10.000 tracks.
And yes, Tom Star's remix does use the LTWB Kick. If i were you i would just stick to using it and layer some other top kick, you can say that this kick is the holy grail of House Music Kickdrums right now.
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- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Melbourne, Australia
Nice post [0_0].
FWIW the kick sounds very similar to the one used by Neelix in this track. So thick and phat it defies belief. I have not got anywhere near it with hardware or software synths, or by laying my own samples but will keep trying. It's in there somewhere!
FWIW the kick sounds very similar to the one used by Neelix in this track. So thick and phat it defies belief. I have not got anywhere near it with hardware or software synths, or by laying my own samples but will keep trying. It's in there somewhere!
... space is the place ...
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 64 posts since 15 Jan, 2012
[quote="[0_0]"]I will give you a useful advice from my experience.
Unlike many people say here, those sounds in those big electronic tracks are not 'just vengeance samples' and you will not get them by 'just some EQ and compression'.
Those good samples are very rare. That's also why all those producers use the same sounds and sample each other.
There are only 2 ways to get those sounds:
1: Create them yourself with a (kickdrum) synthesizer and layering. (But this is really difficult and you will need much experience to create the same sound as in your head. I bet most of those popular producers can't even do this. But it's still useful to practice. Once you master it, you can make everything you want and take it to the next level.)
2: Just sample. In your this is relatively easy, because you can hear the kickdrum solo at 5:00 of the track.
For your interest, this is the origin of that kickdrum.
I first heard it in this track from SHM, but I'm quite sure it was also used in other tracks before. I don't think SHM made it theirself.
There was a sample pack available for a remix competition of that track. I think Afrojack for example downloaded that and used the samples. This is a track with the same kickdrum. He lowered only the pitch a little bit. He uses that one in all of his tracks.
Here another one, with David Guetta.
From that moment Guetta also started using it. Here is a track with the same Afrojack kickdrum for example:
And these days you will hear it in every track. Sometimes with a little different pitch or layered with a top kick with more 'click'.
And I think that kickdrum is also used in your example. I'm not really sure because i don't have good headphones here, but it sounds almost the same.
Sorry for the long post, it is a little bit off-topic, but i think it is important to know when you are producing this kind of music. I wasted a lot of time myself trying to get better sounds with compression and EQ, but at the end it is all about the samples and instruments itself. A compressor will change the volume, it will not make an entire new sound. Equalizers the same.
The most important thing is to learn to listen really good, so you know which sounds you should use or not.
But I would search for a new kickdrum because this one is already used in 10.000 tracks.[/quote]
Unlike many people say here, those sounds in those big electronic tracks are not 'just vengeance samples' and you will not get them by 'just some EQ and compression'.
Those good samples are very rare. That's also why all those producers use the same sounds and sample each other.
There are only 2 ways to get those sounds:
1: Create them yourself with a (kickdrum) synthesizer and layering. (But this is really difficult and you will need much experience to create the same sound as in your head. I bet most of those popular producers can't even do this. But it's still useful to practice. Once you master it, you can make everything you want and take it to the next level.)
2: Just sample. In your this is relatively easy, because you can hear the kickdrum solo at 5:00 of the track.
For your interest, this is the origin of that kickdrum.
I first heard it in this track from SHM, but I'm quite sure it was also used in other tracks before. I don't think SHM made it theirself.
There was a sample pack available for a remix competition of that track. I think Afrojack for example downloaded that and used the samples. This is a track with the same kickdrum. He lowered only the pitch a little bit. He uses that one in all of his tracks.
Here another one, with David Guetta.
From that moment Guetta also started using it. Here is a track with the same Afrojack kickdrum for example:
And these days you will hear it in every track. Sometimes with a little different pitch or layered with a top kick with more 'click'.
And I think that kickdrum is also used in your example. I'm not really sure because i don't have good headphones here, but it sounds almost the same.
Sorry for the long post, it is a little bit off-topic, but i think it is important to know when you are producing this kind of music. I wasted a lot of time myself trying to get better sounds with compression and EQ, but at the end it is all about the samples and instruments itself. A compressor will change the volume, it will not make an entire new sound. Equalizers the same.
The most important thing is to learn to listen really good, so you know which sounds you should use or not.
But I would search for a new kickdrum because this one is already used in 10.000 tracks.
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- Banned
- 7 posts since 21 Dec, 2014
yeah the famouse "Leave the world behind kickdrum" for google LTBW-kick. Axwell explained how he get it in his old forum. was 2 recorded 2 real kickdrum layer summed in analog enviroment to get the nice compression and the phattness
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- Banned
- 7 posts since 21 Dec, 2014
Mostwest wrote:yeah the famouse "Leave the world behind kickdrum" for google LTBW-kick. Axwell explained how he get it in his old forum. was 2 recorded 2 real kickdrum layer processed and summed in analog enviroment to get the nice compression and the phattness