KVR Audio

Richard_Synapse · Post by **Richard_Synapse** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:55 am

When people ask about standalone I refer them to the Orion Demo, which is lightweight, free, easy-to-use / set up and more powerful than a standalone plugin ever could be. It supports VST, ASIO, multiple MIDI interfaces, 32-bit and 64-bit plugins, etc., all you need. While it's Windows-only, I'm sure something exists on the Mac too which is free and gets the job done.

Richard

Ch00rD · Post by **Ch00rD** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:25 am

pinki wrote:A split then! Stange to be actively against standalone though- it can't do any harm

They take up valuable space on your disk. Example: NI Komplete, stand-alone apps taking more than a half GB.

Richard_Synapse · Post by **Richard_Synapse** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:38 am

Ch00rD wrote:
pinki wrote:A split then! Stange to be actively against standalone though- it can't do any harm
They take up valuable space on your disk. Example: NI Komplete, stand-alone apps taking more than a half GB.

What's worse is your system becomes slower and slower with every install. The installers clutter the registry and some add stuff to autostart and/or services.

Richard

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:57 am

Ch00rD wrote:
pinki wrote:A split then! Stange to be actively against standalone though- it can't do any harm
They take up valuable space on your disk. Example: NI Komplete, stand-alone apps taking more than a half GB.

then delete the utterly massive 0.5% of the install that you dont want.

angelremington · Post by **angelremington** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:03 pm

I personally like the standalones, although not necessarily a deal breaker if there's not a stand alone, i just feel like it is an added bonus.. just to quickly fire it up and fiddle or try something out etc, although it is just as quick and more fun to fire up the Microkorg... but astill i love it when you just start absynth or massive in standalone and just have a bit of fun or inspiration... then you may find you are onto something and close it and start the DAW anyway

pinki · Post by **pinki** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:34 pm

Seems the 'against' is a windows thing- on a Mac a standalone doesn't slow your computer down....

IrionDaRonin · Post by **IrionDaRonin** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:35 pm

I don't use standalone versions for synths.
In fact i always delete the executable if comes with the Vst, using only the dll file.

However, if the tool is a sampler or a groove-maker with exporting to wav options, i do.

Have a good day

quayquay17 · Post by **quayquay17** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:34 pm

pinki wrote:Seems the 'against' is a windows thing- on a Mac a standalone doesn't slow your computer down....

Here we go

braj · Post by **braj** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:50 pm

Richard_Synapse wrote:When people ask about standalone I refer them to the Orion Demo, which is lightweight, free, easy-to-use / set up and more powerful than a standalone plugin ever could be. It supports VST, ASIO, multiple MIDI interfaces, 32-bit and 64-bit plugins, etc., all you need. While it's Windows-only, I'm sure something exists on the Mac too which is free and gets the job done.

Richard

Does the Orion demo time out, or can it continue to be used in a limited capacity as a VST host (I think that's what you are suggesting, right?). I'd love it if that were the case. I use Mulab Free as a 'mini-host' when I just want to play a VST with no full DAW. It seems pretty svelte to me.

foosnark · Post by **foosnark** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:19 pm

Don't care. Standalones are basically just clutter. Disk space is cheap.

It's mildly annoying when the plugin won't run until you register it through the standalone, though.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:28 pm

pinki wrote:A split then! Stange to be actively against standalone though- it can't do any harm

Why strange? It takes a lot of development experience to figure out all the audio/midi interface stuff and then to maintain it across various OS'es and OS updates. Small developers only have so much time and I would rather it spent on synth development and not replicating daw functionality. (Don't care about the disk space)

I have some synths with standalone versions (AAS stuff) and I used to use them sometimes, but then in the course of making a preset I would regularly want to record a little midi sequence/audio to remember how I was using that preset and then I would have to quit the standalone and launch the daw and so I always just start with the daw so I have the full capability right there to begin with.

braj · Post by **braj** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:33 pm

AAS synths that include an audio recorder are cool. I imagine it is helpful to developers to have a standalone themselves and I imagine it isn't THAT hard especially if you have a whole range of synths sharing the same mini-host wrapper.

pinki · Post by **pinki** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:46 pm

pdxindy wrote: I have some synths with standalone versions (AAS stuff) and I used to use them sometimes, but then in the course of making a preset I would regularly want to record a little midi sequence/audio to remember how I was using that preset and then I would have to quit the standalone and launch the daw and so I always just start with the daw so I have the full capability right there to begin with.

Mmm true enough I guess.

braj · Post by **braj** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:32 am

I don't think I would ever decide to buy/not buy based on a standalone version.

tapper mike · Post by **tapper mike** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:31 am

If I'm buying it I definitely expect it to have a standalone. It's the mark of professionalism.

Is standalone important?