What is the proper term for the width/thickness of sound in digital audio?

[Joey222]

But then you say that mono recordings don't apply to a stereo field (????) which leads me to believe you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

oh so your telling me that there is a near field and right field withing a mono recording. Is that what your trying to hint? Please go on and keep telling me how I don't know what I am talking about, because clearly I have stated several facts and no one has yet come out to say my statements are WRONG AND WHY THEY ARE WRONG! I came here to find out a term and no one has yet to tell me, but what they do tell me is how wrong I am and when I reply back someones answer which makes no sense and give them a reason why it doesn't make sense someone else replies and I quote "you don't know what your talking about". So far I've stated pure facts, which is know one here knows any type of knowledge in this field, if you guys did you would of giving ANSWERS and not reply "you don't know what your talking about"

Funny how a programmer knows more about music and how it works then musicians who claim to know everything but yet don't know that there is no stereo field in mono recording!

[t3toooo]

this is the forum for the professionals,i guess the people there are willing to help you quickly.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/


bye,

[ftech]

But then you say that mono recordings don't apply to a stereo field (????) which leads me to believe you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

oh so your telling me that there is a near field and right field withing a mono recording. Is that what your trying to hint? Please go on and keep telling me how I don't know what I am talking about, because clearly I have stated several facts and no one has yet come out to say my statements are WRONG AND WHY THEY ARE WRONG! I came here to find out a term and no one has yet to tell me, but what they do tell me is how wrong I am and when I reply back someones answer which makes no sense and give them a reason why it doesn't make sense someone else replies and I quote "you don't know what your talking about". So far I've stated pure facts, which is know one here knows any type of knowledge in this field, if you guys did you would of giving ANSWERS and not reply "you don't know what your talking about"

Funny how a programmer knows more about music and how it works then musicians who claim to know everything but yet don't know that there is no stereo field in mono recording!

No, I am not saying that at all.
You stated that a mono recording does not apply to a stereo field, when a mono recording is a single channel recording which can be applied anywhere in a stereo field, hence my no idea comment.
Maybe you are getting you're terminology mixed up?

Oh, and by the way the term you were originally looking for might be harmonic content........

[geroyannis]

Fantastic! Best reply I got. Funny how you say I don't know what I'm talking about but yet you cant even spell.

oh so your telling me that there is a near field and right field withing a mono recording. Is that what your trying to hint? Please go on and keep telling me how I don't know what I am talking about, because clearly I have stated several facts and no one has yet come out to say my statements are WRONG AND WHY THEY ARE WRONG! I came here to find out a term and no one has yet to tell me, but what they do tell me is how wrong I am and when I reply back someones answer which makes no sense and give them a reason why it doesn't make sense someone else replies and I quote "you don't know what your talking about". So far I've stated pure facts, which is know one here knows any type of knowledge in this field, if you guys did you would of giving ANSWERS and not reply "you don't know what your talking about"

Funny how a programmer knows more about music and how it works then musicians who claim to know everything but yet don't know that there is no stereo field in mono recording!

Ha ha, it's not like you're that much better in spelling and grammar.

t3toooo is right. Go to www.gearslutz.com

[ftech]

Joey222 wrote:
"So far I've stated pure facts, which is know one here knows any type of knowledge in this field"

Pure gold..........maybe his new sig???????????

[Joey222]

But then you say that mono recordings don't apply to a stereo field (????) which leads me to believe you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

oh so your telling me that there is a near field and right field withing a mono recording. Is that what your trying to hint? Please go on and keep telling me how I don't know what I am talking about, because clearly I have stated several facts and no one has yet come out to say my statements are WRONG AND WHY THEY ARE WRONG! I came here to find out a term and no one has yet to tell me, but what they do tell me is how wrong I am and when I reply back someones answer which makes no sense and give them a reason why it doesn't make sense someone else replies and I quote "you don't know what your talking about". So far I've stated pure facts, which is know one here knows any type of knowledge in this field, if you guys did you would of giving ANSWERS and not reply "you don't know what your talking about"

Funny how a programmer knows more about music and how it works then musicians who claim to know everything but yet don't know that there is no stereo field in mono recording!

No, I am not saying that at all.
You stated that a mono recording does not apply to a stereo field, when a mono recording is a single channel recording which can be applied anywhere in a stereo field, hence my no idea comment.
Maybe you are getting you're terminology mixed up?

Oh, and by the way the term you were originally looking for might be harmonic content........

"when a mono recording is a single channel recording which can be applied anywhere in a stereo field" lol! hmm!

[Joey222]

this is the forum for the professionals,i guess the people there are willing to help you quickly.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/


bye,

Thanks been looking at this forum, but it seems like its geared towards audio products. I will look into it more. After posting this thread I learned to actually crawl around and see what forums are about because not everyone is knowledgeable with programming or flying rockets into space

[Joey222]

Fantastic! Best reply I got. Funny how you say I don't know what I'm talking about but yet you cant even spell.

oh so your telling me that there is a near field and right field withing a mono recording. Is that what your trying to hint? Please go on and keep telling me how I don't know what I am talking about, because clearly I have stated several facts and no one has yet come out to say my statements are WRONG AND WHY THEY ARE WRONG! I came here to find out a term and no one has yet to tell me, but what they do tell me is how wrong I am and when I reply back someones answer which makes no sense and give them a reason why it doesn't make sense someone else replies and I quote "you don't know what your talking about". So far I've stated pure facts, which is know one here knows any type of knowledge in this field, if you guys did you would of giving ANSWERS and not reply "you don't know what your talking about"

Funny how a programmer knows more about music and how it works then musicians who claim to know everything but yet don't know that there is no stereo field in mono recording!

Ha ha, it's not like you're that much better in spelling and grammar.

t3toooo is right. Go to www.gearslutz.com

"Ha ha, it's not like you're that much better in spelling and grammar." I didnt spell anything wrong YOU DID! but I like how you tried to throw grammar in there to make it seem like I made the same mistakes you made. FANTASTIC!

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Funny how a programmer knows more about music and how it works then musicians who claim to know everything but yet don't know that there is no stereo field in mono recording!

Now you are saying that this is about music and not a really specific, Really anal term which you want to pull out your arse or wish somebody else would do it for you Joey?

I'll tell you this, Without a monophonic recording there would never be the illusion of a stereophonic recording. If you were not being such a prick I might have answered your question. However you are being a proper Billy Bats.

Buy a few books from amazon dedicated to acoustics and psychoacoustics and do your reading/homework properly programmer


Now go home and get yer fuckin' shine box

[Joey222]

Funny how a programmer knows more about music and how it works then musicians who claim to know everything but yet don't know that there is no stereo field in mono recording!

Now you are saying that this is about music and not a really specific, Really anal term which you want to pull out your arse or wish somebody else would do it for you Joey?

I'll tell you this, Without a monophonic recording there would never be the illusion of a stereophonic recording. If you were not being such a prick I might have answered your question. However you are being a proper Billy Bats.

Buy a few books from amazon dedicated to acoustics and psychoacoustics and do your reading/homework properly programmer


Now go home and get yer fuckin' shine box

"If you were not being such a prick I might have answered your question." This screams I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I WILL PRETEND TO KNOW! FANTASTIC!

If you know the answer just tell me, THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF ME POSTING THIS TOPIC! Would like answers. I'm not here to be a prick, I just want ANSWERS!

Its okay guys! I get it, your all here to troll, and when you don't know the answer you just troll. How does the saying go "When in doubt.. TROLL"

[Bobbotov]

Hi, my name is Joey and I'm new to digital audio. I am currently researching digital audio and how it works to finish a project someone has giving me. With your assistance hopefully I will be able to achieve it.

I am having trouble with certain terms in digital audio. I know there is velocity, amplitude, frequency, of sound but I cannot determine the correct term for the width of a sound. For instance how wide and narrow the sound can be. I know there is a term for how wide and narrow sound can be, but I just cant seem to pull it out. I know its at the tip of my tongue, but somehow I just do not know the proper way to articulate the width/thickness of sound in general.

Any help?

Do you have an example of a wide sound and narrow sound as you understand it? That might help people figure out what you are trying to define. Also, what is the project requiring you to do with regards to the depth or width of fields? Is it dealing with programming digital sound, composition, sound design, etc?

[ftech]

Joey222 wrote:
If you know the answer just tell me, THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF ME POSTING THIS TOPIC! Would like answers. I'm not here to be a prick, I just want ANSWERS!


ftech wrote:
Oh, and by the way the term you were originally looking for might be harmonic content........

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Face down, Ass up. spREAD you legs

[Joey222]

Hi, my name is Joey and I'm new to digital audio. I am currently researching digital audio and how it works to finish a project someone has giving me. With your assistance hopefully I will be able to achieve it.

I am having trouble with certain terms in digital audio. I know there is velocity, amplitude, frequency, of sound but I cannot determine the correct term for the width of a sound. For instance how wide and narrow the sound can be. I know there is a term for how wide and narrow sound can be, but I just cant seem to pull it out. I know its at the tip of my tongue, but somehow I just do not know the proper way to articulate the width/thickness of sound in general.

Any help?

Do you have an example of a wide sound and narrow sound as you understand it? That might help people figure out what you are trying to define. Also, what is the project requiring you to do with regards to the depth or width of fields? Is it dealing with programming digital sound, composition, sound design, etc?

No I do not have an example, I do not know anything when it comes to producing sound. I have played around with Ableton but I've come to the conclusion that its just not for me.

I was thinking something along the line with effects. Something like compressing or expanding an audio track. For example, if an engineer was mixing a recording I would assume that the engineer would mix the elements of the song in each perspective frequency. What I am trying to get at, is the spatial element the engineer would give that particular sound. NO I'M NOT TALKING HARMONICS! I'M FULLY AWARE OF THAT! I believe harmonics is more of a 2 dimensional perspective with the spectrograph.

Think about mixing a piano, there is some effect where you can give the piano a wider sound in the recording and an effect that can narrow the spatial width of the piano sound. I'm not sure if my above example with compressing makes sense as again I will state "I'm not a musician"

Please guys, work with me. I'm sorry if I came off as a jerk but I'm honestly here to find answers. I'm just a programmer trying to understand your world.

[Bobbotov]

No I do not have an example, I do not know anything when it comes to producing sound. I have played around with Ableton but I've come to the conclusion that its just not for me.

I was thinking something along the line with effects. Something like compressing or expanding an audio track. For example, if an engineer was mixing a recording I would assume that the engineer would mix the elements of the song in each perspective frequency. What I am trying to get at, is the spatial element the engineer would give that particular sound. NO I'M NOT TALKING HARMONICS! I'M FULLY AWARE OF THAT! I believe harmonics is more of a 2 dimensional perspective with the spectrograph.

Think about mixing a piano, there is some effect where you can give the piano a wider sound in the recording and an effect that can narrow the spatial width of the piano sound. I'm not sure if my above example with compressing makes sense as again I will state "I'm not a musician"

Harmonics would deal with the overtones produced by an instrument. A pure sine wave has no overtones theoretically but a piano has many as does a guitar and virtually any other instrument. These overtones produce the instrument's timbre and is a large part of what makes the uniqueness of the instrument's sound.

Frequencies would deal with things like filtering and EQ of those overtones. There are many types of filters and EQ's but essentially they are narrowing or widening the frequency range of the instrument. So to make a piano sound narrow you would limit its frequency range and make it tinny. Conversely, to make it wider you would open up the frequency range giving it a fuller, deeper and crisper sound. A graphic equalizer is usually controlling ranges of frequencies that can be opened or closed. Parametric EQ's control even narrower bands. The easiest way to hear what filtering does it to work with white noise which contains all frequencies.

Compressors in their simplest form are dealing with dynamics ensuring that nothing it too soft or too loud.

Please guys, work with me. I'm sorry if I came off as a jerk but I'm honestly here to find answers. I'm just a programmer trying to understand your world.

I think people are. But without knowing the terminology and what comprises the various components of sound makes it difficult for you to express yourself and difficult for us to comprehend what it is you are driving at. You mentioned digital in your first post but these things apply to analog as well. It is just that the technology to reproduce them is different.