Is there any synth out there that has the sound quality of U-He Diva?
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 18147 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
well i'm in spain so...........not that i have any money for it, but i think it's a bit too much anywaysIngonator wrote:Yes but here in Germany we also have to pay 19% VAT...el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:i thought it was 175 dollarsIngonator wrote:Just had a look again. With 175 Euros (incl. VAT) it's one of the more expensive plugins.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:'diversion' looks greatwell-designed ui from the looks of things
someone needs to osx'ise that beeyatch !!
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- KVRAF
- 3821 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
None of those sound as good as Diva.Aiynzahev wrote:I do think Oxium has a quality that reminded me of DIVA, when you have a project going on with the usual suspects and you add DIVA you suddenly get new life into the project, it sounds full and comes through the mix.
Oxium does that too, it has a high quality filter. I don't know if it is as deep sounding as DIVA, but I has a very good quality high-end.
I don't have any other Xils-Lab synths though so I don't know about the others.
Another synth I've used that is quite good is Corona. Very different character, but the filter and resonance sound very authentic.
Largo has a really nice filter section, but it is a very different sound from DIVA.
Largo is very nice though and can reach areas that Diva can't. Takes longer to hit the sweet spots though.
Corona... well really not so much - very hard to get good sounds from.
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- KVRAF
- 3821 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
Hmmmm, close but no cigar.donato wrote:The XILS synths, Aalto and Arturia SEM are all right at that same level of quality of DIVA imho.
re: aalto in particular, it sound good and has a palette that is different to most other softsynths.. but it still has that soft synth sound. youtube some buchla videos and you can see it falls short...
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- KVRAF
- 3821 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
What a surprise to find such a Spam in a Diva thread...Lotuzia wrote:Fyi : Oxium is only 69 € until September 5th. (end of the intro price period )ddeez wrote:hey thanks for all the responses. I apologize for not being a bit more specific. I think Diva is the best sounding synth I've heard so far, and I want another synth on the same sound quality level but with more modulation options, more VCO options etc. I will check out oxium, dcam and corona as I've seen those mentioned multiple times. Please keep the suggestions coming!!!
Might be the right time to get it if you like it.
LtZ
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- KVRian
- 782 posts since 9 Nov, 2003
it's not a 1 to 1 emulation of a buchla. it's inspired by a buchla. besides that, i've owned over 20 real analog synths. how many have you owned?_leras wrote:Hmmmm, close but no cigar.donato wrote:The XILS synths, Aalto and Arturia SEM are all right at that same level of quality of DIVA imho.
re: aalto in particular, it sound good and has a palette that is different to most other softsynths.. but it still has that soft synth sound. youtube some buchla videos and you can see it falls short...
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- KVRian
- 782 posts since 9 Nov, 2003
massive is shit to my ears, but i prefer analog and analog emulations. even as a digital i strongly dislike it for what it is._leras wrote:I do. It's still the best and most useable soft synth by far!!kev2525 wrote:Nobody here seems to rate massive?
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David Carpenter Wind Core David Carpenter Wind Core https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=196097
- KVRist
- 223 posts since 17 Dec, 2008 from Boulder CO
I would say camel alchemy and omnisphere sound great. Also another couple nice sounding ones are z3ta+2, sylenth 1, and korg mono poly. Each of these to me has a unique character just as usable as diva.
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- KVRian
- 528 posts since 17 Apr, 2009 from portland oregon
I'm a bad fan of poly ana's sound.
Hate the GUI, but great sound.
Hate the GUI, but great sound.
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- KVRAF
- 3878 posts since 28 Jun, 2009 from Wherever I lay my hat
Taking into account that "sound" is extremely subjective, not to mention most aspects of sound quality...
...the thing about Diva is that some of the randomness of real analogue circuitry is coded into the synth itself. With most other softsynths, you'd have to program them to emulate this randomness. You can get closer to the original equipment that way, if that's what you want. Synthsquad, for example, takes a bit more attention to detail to get that warm, fuzzy sound, but it CAN do it. Maybe not as perfect as Diva, but so close it's almost a moot point. Same goes for Zebra, the Xils synths, Polyana, Diversion, etc.
"Objective" considerations are aliasing and low and high end performance. I've noticed that some softsynths' oscillators just sound better when played very low or very high; others seem to lose definition and power at these extremes. Filters can be very different, as well - personally, when doing sounds that require resonant filter sweeps, I no longer use synths that have that very obvious "stepping" sound when sweeping.
But just wait: in twenty years, we'll have softsynths that emulate those "vintage" softsynths that had that odd but strangely desirable stepping sound, and we'll be arguing over which softsynth softsynth emulation is a superior emulation.
...the thing about Diva is that some of the randomness of real analogue circuitry is coded into the synth itself. With most other softsynths, you'd have to program them to emulate this randomness. You can get closer to the original equipment that way, if that's what you want. Synthsquad, for example, takes a bit more attention to detail to get that warm, fuzzy sound, but it CAN do it. Maybe not as perfect as Diva, but so close it's almost a moot point. Same goes for Zebra, the Xils synths, Polyana, Diversion, etc.
"Objective" considerations are aliasing and low and high end performance. I've noticed that some softsynths' oscillators just sound better when played very low or very high; others seem to lose definition and power at these extremes. Filters can be very different, as well - personally, when doing sounds that require resonant filter sweeps, I no longer use synths that have that very obvious "stepping" sound when sweeping.
But just wait: in twenty years, we'll have softsynths that emulate those "vintage" softsynths that had that odd but strangely desirable stepping sound, and we'll be arguing over which softsynth softsynth emulation is a superior emulation.
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
That's probably the most dumb/trolling comment i've read here so far. Check out the topic...! Could be a good idea!_leras wrote: What a surprise to find such a Spam in a Diva thread...
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- KVRAF
- 20890 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Not that you asked me but I've owned at least 50, maybe 60 if you count analog drum machines. Hell, I have about 20 analog synths right now! <-junkiedonato wrote:i've owned over 20 real analog synths. how many have you owned?