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Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:35 pm

you're talking to me...everything about me is different

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:13 am

Cool, Joe Perry used a JCA20 "extensively" on the last album:

http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/I ... 4&#gallery

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:20 am

I love it, Fender combos used as monitors:

http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/I ... 2&#gallery

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:45 am

Uncle E wrote:Cool, Joe Perry used a JCA20 "extensively" on the last album:

http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/I ... 4&#gallery

in the early 80s before a-smith got back together not only did I meet him but he was a complete a-hole to me, in a store in Waltham Mass was one of guitars for sale. It was the explorer on one of the album sleeves, at the time he was still in the Joe Perry project and this guitar had a price tag 0f 399. From the rumors he was broke, so was that guitar. The pots were trashed, it was gross, and new it would have been a Gibson I may have bought. The neck was nice, but not when I played it...it was toast but you knew once it was sweet.

Honestly there are few musicians I have less respect for than him, the only one I can think of is Tom Scholtz...it's no coincidence that they are both local either. I wouldn't take his advice on picks, never mind amps (he may know what he's talking about but it's likely the money doing the talking) and I like Jet City of course. I love the first 4 a-smith albums, Brad is real and real cool...he came into stores I worked at in 'normal' mode and was awesome. Steve Tyler when I met him was cool (again during the split) but I just do not care for anything since Rocks and that's borderline (I love the other three albums), Draw the line had two okay songs and then along came a night with the sluts

Ironically I was at the final jp project show with tyler singing some and joey kramer on drums, one week later to the night I was 4th row for the first re-union show at capitol theater in Concord NH for a-smith. I also saw them at the Boston Garden on the Get Your Wings tour in 75 (an unknown band at the time opened up for them, Foghat)...I figure I saw them at their very best.

This makes twice this has happened this year, finding out that dill weed and me have similar tastes...there was a Daion Power Mark XX on ebay owned by a-smith not too long ago.

Now I have him on my mind, excuse me while I go puke...oh and note, not one word about his guitar playing because my beef with him has nothing to do with his talent...I dont like him. His uncle use to come into a packy I worked at, he was very cool...I felt bad for him.

rant over

oh, I still have all three Joe Perry Project CDs and still listen to them as well I do with the first four a-smith albums...so it aint about the music

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:27 pm

Hink wrote:
Uncle E wrote:
Dean Aka Nekro wrote:We had my morley 4-way switcher with a Marshall JCM800 half-stack, VintageModern half-stack both with a 1960 (1960A for the JCM800 and a 1960AV for the VM), Fender HotRod DeVille II 4x10" Combo and that Vox AC30 2x12"...Out of all them the AC30 was just visceral Eric and yeah took heads off.
That's why I can't understand 100 watt amps. All that weight and expense just to gain a smidgeon more volume, I'd rather convert a 50 watt amp to KT88's.
you get a smidgeon more headroom too Seriously, the only reason why I would get another 100 watt (or more) amp would be because it was a one time shot and I didn't have the choice between a 50 watt and 100 watt...like for instance if I go a great deal on a JCM800 but it was the 100 watt model, then I would just pull two power tubes if I felt the need

Well I do agree and John brings up the points as to why I have plans or rather the few amp heads I have plans/designs on are 120 watters (well with the Laney Ironheart there is a 60 watt head but the amp has built-in attentuator as master volume labelled 'VARI WATTS' with a MASSIVELY oversized transformer to take care of it. The Laney Ironheart IRT120H model side by side to the Ironheart IRT60H sounded/felt better than the IRT60H to me. Could be my madness but I was/am careful to match volumes and all other settings), The Buggerer/Bugera 333XL (Thats another 120 IIRC, I can have that now for £340! The non-infinitum older stock model. Which is quick frankly insane VFM. I am tempted so bad to just drop the hammer right now actually!) & the newer Tri-Rec Infinitum head Buggerer only offer 120 Watt monster heads or I would no doubt go for the lower output option if they were actually available Eric and Nik

I'm wired up abit wierd but not insane

Regarding the way I was trying to explain the viseral thing the AC30 had/has going on I can try better explain. Whilst I was playing around with what Laney's they had in last time I was (for a change

) playing around in the local, The Lionheart 50 head and matching cab was in so me being me decided I wanted to try them both at the same time as it is a great design/build that it is based around. So I had the IronHeart 100 with its matching IRT-412 4x12" base cabinet and the Lionheart L50H with its matching LH-412 4x12" angled cabinet running at the same time with an A/BY box. No other pedals infront. The Lionheart was much louder/raw/untamed/visercal.
Yes totally different topologies, style and designed for different purposes each and also loud speaker wise the compliment very different also with the IRT-412 having Laney's own H&H 100 watt 12" models inside and the LH-412 having Celestion's G12 Heritage's which are far less effecient putting out a measily 30 watts each, Voiced very different. So that was a 50 watt class A head into a 120 watt 4x12" totally PWNING a much more intimidating looking and on paper far more powerful 120 Watt Class A/B head into a 400 watt 4x12".
It doesn't compress the same, clip the same and that is I susspose what I mean/mean't and due to that whereas the modern style monster goes into tight, low-end happy rock to extreme metal sounds the more classic inspired design keeps on getting louder, compresses alot less and unless I stuck a distortion pedal infornt of it or at least an overdrive doing alot more than I would usually have it set to do gain wise it just doesn't do that and the bottom/lows get all loose...etc.

Best way I can explain what I was trying to say and still I do not know/am not satisfied I have achieved that

Them Lionheart L50H are really not that disimilar design wise to the DC30, On paper IIRC but still different and to my ears sound wise is really damned close also for what it is worth, A really good 'british' thing without that much of an unreasonalbe price/far from "boutique". Actually I would imagine that the L50H might be an amp that you would like Eric/It suit your tastes? But its only the 50 Watt head as the others in Laney's Lionheart range are different build wise and key component wise (Specifically 5xEL34B-STR's run in parallel putting out 10 watts each, Single ended class A. The others in the range are either 2xEL84 or 4xEL84 and sound alot different). If I had the money and I saw one used for a good price it would be a sound studio investment

This is how the IronHeart manages that 'VARI WATTS' thing if you look at the size of that beast in the right of the head:

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:23 pm

Dean Aka Nekro wrote:It doesn't compress the same, clip the same and that is I susspose what I mean/mean't and due to that whereas the modern style monster goes into tight, low-end happy rock to extreme metal sounds the more classic inspired design keeps on getting louder, compresses alot less and unless I stuck a distortion pedal infornt of it or at least an overdrive doing alot more than I would usually have it set to do gain wise it just doesn't do that and the bottom/lows get all loose...etc.

That's a good point about them being "low-end happy", it does take more power to represent those bass frequencies. I used to play in a band where I was using a 22 watt Deluxe combo and the other guitarist was using a 100 watt Dual Rectifier half stack. My rig blew his rig away night after night because all his lows and highs were getting blended together with the bass and cymbals.

Actually I would imagine that the L50H might be an amp that you would like Eric/It suit your tastes? But its only the 50 Watt head as the others in Laney's Lionheart range are different build wise and key component wise (Specifically 5xEL34B-STR's run in parallel putting out 10 watts each, Single ended class A. The others in the range are either 2xEL84 or 4xEL84 and sound alot different). If I had the money and I saw one used for a good price it would be a sound studio investment

I'd love to try one of these out some day.

This is how the IronHeart manages that 'VARI WATTS' thing if you look at the size of that beast in the right of the head:

Incredible!

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:12 am

http://www.3rdpower.com/

Liero · Post by **Liero** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:04 pm

bmanic:

How's the THR10?

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:29 am

Sorry! Never got around recording the bloody thing. Been doing quite a few 14 hour work days lately and it's taken it's toll.

I'll eventually get around doing it but for the moment you just have to play one at a local music shop.

Sometimes when I get home in the middle of the night and need to relax I just plug it into my computer and jam along with spottify or while watching some movie. It's awesome to have a "soundcard" which comes integrated with it's own guitar amp!

Cheers!
bManic

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:42 am

emg 81 & emg 60 18v

start with my the t/s clone I built, 1st set of clippers lifted so it's mostly boost

to the Jet City OD channel (distortion only, no tone controls)

into the frenzel power amp with a single 6v6 power tube and edge pulled (using frenzel tone controls)

in triode mode

into attenuator (bypass switch is in backwards) not an eq, it attenuates all three frequency ranges as desired.

to the iso cab with two dynamic mics and a ribbon mic

boxy

no headroom loss from the attenuator...

biting gain,

no fuzz

but gobs of sustain

fwiw this goes into my project folder, my version of a preset

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:14 am

haha! Hinks presets, you can't buy 'em, but you wish you could!

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:30 am

Hink wrote:http://www.3rdpower.com/

Wonder how the speakers sound on those...

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:32 am

hibidy wrote:haha! Hinks presets, you can't buy 'em, but you wish you could!

Be interesting to hear!!

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:32 am

trimph1 wrote:
Hink wrote:http://www.3rdpower.com/

Wonder how the speakers sound on those...

They send out a triangle wave.

(oops)

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:33 am

hibidy wrote:
trimph1 wrote:
Hink wrote:http://www.3rdpower.com/

Wonder how the speakers sound on those...
They send out a triangle square.

No Saw?

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