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lingyai · Post by **lingyai** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:00 pm

After a year or so of succumbing to GAS, it is now rare that I see any FX plug that offers anything new which I think I really need. But here's something which I'd buy in a heartbeat… or maybe it already exists? If so, someone please let me know.

Multianlayzers, like Blue Cat's

http://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/Pr ... lystMulti/

and MeldaProduction's new MmultiAnalyzer

http://meldaproduction.com/mmultianalyzer/

are a great way of seeing frequency conflicts within a mix.

The thing is - at least in my DAW (Acid Pro 7), I can only see one FX plug's GUI at a time. So I can see, for example, from one of these multianalyzers, that I've got a lot of parts competing for the space between, say, 200 Hz and 500 Hz or whatever; but to do anything about it, I have to go to each track involved in the "competition", adjust the EQ, and then check the multianalyzer to see if the adjustment worked or not. And that of course would only pertain to the snapshot I'd analyzed, whereas in fact things change over the course of the song. So that's a lot of switching back and forth.

What would be just awesome is if one of the multianalyzers also featured a top-notch EQ. So, for example, while seeing the frequency curve for each track in one view, you could also, within that same view, make EQ adjustments to a selected track - that way, you could change something and simultaneously see the result within the context of the whole song (i.e. of all the tracks).

That would be something of a holy grail. I, for one, would definitely pay, say, $100-$150 or so for that (provided the EQ was up to scratch - for example, of the same high quality as the EQs from DMG, DDMF, Melda, Voxengo et al).

Users, developers -- any thoughts ?

Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:56 pm

iZotope Alloy. Ozone Advanced is even better but introduces latency so mainly for mixdown.

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:24 pm

Voxengo GlissEQ already does exactly what you describe.

/Joachim

lingyai · Post by **lingyai** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:49 pm

You mean it's already out there? I was hoping some developer would run with the idea and name it "The lingyai multi-EQ-o-gram". F*ck!

No, seriously -- thanks for the tips, both of you.

Selfik · Post by **Selfik** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:35 pm

How can you do that with alloy?

Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:50 pm

Alloy doesn't have the advanced multianalysis of Ozone, but it does have a freq curve in the same window as the EQ curves. He may need more than this, which is where Ozone or another plug could come in. Is Voxengo zero latency like Alloy? I imagine it is.

enroe · Post by **enroe** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:33 pm

lingyai wrote:... multianalyzers also featured a top-notch EQ. So, for example, while seeing the frequency curve for each track in one view, you could also, within that same view, make EQ adjustments to a selected track - that way, you could change something and simultaneously see the result within the context of the whole song (i.e. of all the tracks).

...

Users, developers -- any thoughts ?

You could suggest your idea in the Developer Challange which is currently going on. The Forum is here.

Brittlestem · Post by **Brittlestem** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:49 pm

Fabfilter's Pro-Q has this, I think - pre and post view of the EQ curve, so as you change it you can see a before and after.
And Waves H-EQ has something similar.

http://www.fabfilter.com/products/pro-q.php

http://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=11818

lingyai · Post by **lingyai** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:13 pm

re_mute wrote:Fabfilter's Pro-Q has this, I think - pre and post view of the EQ curve, so as you change it you can see a before and after.
And Waves H-EQ has something similar.

http://www.fabfilter.com/products/pro-q.php

http://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=11818

You use the singular, "the EQ curve". What I mean is, a view of all, and abiltiy to EQ any track underlying, the EQ curves

Brittlestem · Post by **Brittlestem** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:48 pm

lingyai wrote:
re_mute wrote:Fabfilter's Pro-Q has this, I think - pre and post view of the EQ curve, so as you change it you can see a before and after.
And Waves H-EQ has something similar.

http://www.fabfilter.com/products/pro-q.php

http://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=11818

You use the singular, "the EQ curve". What I mean is, a view of all, and abiltiy to EQ any track underlying, the EQ curves

Ah, I didn't read closely enough.

lingyai · Post by **lingyai** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:54 pm

re_mute wrote:
lingyai wrote:
re_mute wrote:Fabfilter's Pro-Q has this, I think - pre and post view of the EQ curve, so as you change it you can see a before and after.
And Waves H-EQ has something similar.

http://www.fabfilter.com/products/pro-q.php

http://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=11818

You use the singular, "the EQ curve". What I mean is, a view of all, and abiltiy to EQ any track underlying, the EQ curves
Ah, I didn't read closely enough.

Happens, no worries. That'll be $50 though.

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:03 pm

Also suggest saving your cash for a new DAW instead of a plugin to work around the arbitrary limitations of a DAW that's on life support. There are lots of great options out there that will let you use a multi-analyzer and an EQ at the same time.

lingyai · Post by **lingyai** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:08 pm

lightsfadelow wrote:Also suggest saving your cash for a new DAW instead of a plugin to work around the arbitrary limitations of a DAW that's on life support. There are lots of great options out there that will let you use a multi-analyzer and an EQ at the same time.

You're right. I just keep postponing the day of reckoning.

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:18 pm

The day of reckoning is nigh. Stop buying plugins and you'll have the cash for a better DAW (Cubase? Studio One?) soon.

lightsfadelow · Post by **lightsfadelow** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:36 am

Oh, but what you want after you have your new DAW is probably the combination of Ozone 5's meter bridge and Alloy 2. With these two you get a killer meter solution on your master buss and every instance of Alloy acts as a meter tap allowing you to switch from looking at the overall mix and individual tracks and busses.

A dream product for the wish list - a multianalyzer combined with an EQ