Is there any synth out there that has the sound quality of U-He Diva?

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mcnoone wrote:Let go of my ego!!!
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electro wrote:So can we look forward to a U-he CS-80? Myself and alot of others here would get it without even demoing.
CS-80 modules in DIVA, please!!!

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pdxindy wrote:Conclusion? You are an idiot for not using a synth you love simply because of what some people say in forums.
Harsh :x
...and funny! :lol:

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We're all idiots...and fools. The biggest ones are easy to spot - they can never admit it.

I too want a CS-80 AND an Oberheim FVS-1 :wheee: (but unlike my old dinosaur, I want to be able to turn quantize OFF on the global osc frequency pot aka "pitch bend knob").

A proper CS-80 simulation MUST pay particular attention to aftertouch :wink:
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Gonga wrote:
A proper CS-80 simulation MUST pay particular attention to aftertouch :wink:
Wouldn't we need a polyAT controller?

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To do it right, yup. And I don't have one. How many are on the market?
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Ingonator wrote:
Kriminal wrote:whatever synth you use, you're gonna need an EQ to make it sound good :P
Not that discussion again...
ITB or outboard? :x
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Gonga wrote:To do it right, yup. And I don't have one. How many are on the market?
something like 1?

I would be happy to pay a chunk of $ for a really well built controller with poly AT, breath controller, X/Y pad and some knobs and sliders... and a great feel, plenty of velocity sensitivity...

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pdxindy wrote:
Gonga wrote:
A proper CS-80 simulation MUST pay particular attention to aftertouch :wink:
Wouldn't we need a polyAT controller?
Polyphonic aftertouch controllers: (I think only the first one is in production)
VAX77
Kurzweil MIDIBoard
Roland A80
Roland A50
Ensoniq SQ-80
Ensoniq VFX
Ensoniq VFX-SD
Ensoniq ASR-10
Ensoniq TS-10
Sequential Circuits Prophet-T8
Yamaha DX1
SynthAxe
General Music GEM S Series workstations
Elka MK88 Master Controller

And someone mentioned breath controllers. They are not in production. They are on ebay sometimes, but they are very expensive. I think the Kurzweil is known to have the best aftertouch. The roland A50 and the A80 aftertouch is very stiff. Ensoniq patented a cheap way of implementing poly AT, and is the least expensive ones.

All the best
gunnare

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gunnare wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
Gonga wrote:
A proper CS-80 simulation MUST pay particular attention to aftertouch :wink:
Wouldn't we need a polyAT controller?
Polyphonic aftertouch controllers: (I think only the first one is in production)
VAX77
Kurzweil MIDIBoard
Roland A80
Roland A50
Ensoniq SQ-80
Ensoniq VFX
Ensoniq VFX-SD
Ensoniq ASR-10
Ensoniq TS-10
Sequential Circuits Prophet-T8
Yamaha DX1
SynthAxe
General Music GEM S Series workstations
Elka MK88 Master Controller

And someone mentioned breath controllers. They are not in production. They are on ebay sometimes, but they are very expensive. I think the Kurzweil is known to have the best aftertouch. The roland A50 and the A80 aftertouch is very stiff. Ensoniq patented a cheap way of implementing poly AT, and is the least expensive ones.

All the best
gunnare
Thanks for the list...

As the years pass, all the old polyAT controllers are getting older and likely more prone to failure. I wonder if particular models are still consistently reliable?

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Gonga wrote:The biggest ones are easy to spot - they can never admit it.
sure I can

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Well, my AKAI MPK49 lasted 3 months before the USB port broke. Still works with MIDI. My Novation has a knob that will send unwanted controller signals. (Bad knob, must be dust, the potentimeter is bolted on, and I cannot access it).

My YAMAHA KX88 controller is one of the finest key-actions ever made. It is from the childhood of MIDI, ca. 1985. I am not the original owner. It performs perfect, and has no issues. You can gig with it. People have found steel wires under the keybeds when cleaning it, it still worked perfect. Many of the old controllers have higher build quality than the current ones.

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gunnare wrote:Well, my AKAI MPK49 lasted 3 months before the USB port broke. Still works with MIDI. My Novation has a knob that will send unwanted controller signals. (Bad knob, must be dust, the potentimeter is bolted on, and I cannot access it).

My YAMAHA KX88 controller is one of the finest key-actions ever made. It is from the childhood of MIDI, ca. 1985. I am not the original owner. It performs perfect, and has no issues. You can gig with it. People have found steel wires under the keybeds when cleaning it, it still worked perfect. Many of the old controllers have higher build quality than the current ones.
Agreed... I use a Korg Z1 is my midi controller... still like it better than new stuff...

if you were going to pick from the list of polyAT controllers, which would be your preference?

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Albert.VST wrote: B.t.w. few months ago in the German Keyboards there was a small interview with PPG creator Wolfgang Palm who said there was too little development into real new synthesis forms, most still keep playing around in the old and known architectures.
lessons from the past will show that anything ahead of its time is sadly taken with a grain of salt. be it artists, musicians, writers, etc or in our case developers. most people ahead of there time don't get recognition till after there dead. theirs something seriously f**ked up about that. i mean an artist spends his entire life slaving in there studio hoping to get a name for themselves and die poverty stricken, then these assholes decide, 'wow this is amazing work! lets give this guy the recognition he didn't get in life." for what! what damn good does that do for the dead artist who suffered absolute criticism and failure in life. its just a very very sad situation that happens to to many artist :(

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AstralExistence wrote:
most people ahead of there time don't get recognition till after there dead. theirs something seriously f**ked up about that. i mean an artist spends his entire life slaving in there studio hoping to get a name for themselves and die poverty stricken, then these assholes decide, 'wow this is amazing work! lets give this guy the recognition he didn't get in life." for what! what damn good does that do for the dead artist who suffered absolute criticism and failure in life. its just a very very sad situation that happens to to many artist :(
Indeed, if only extraordinary painters like Vincent van Gogh and Rembrandt van Rijn in their time would know... :-o
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