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Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:40 am

fmr wrote:I don't get how can this be an emulation of the Synclavier. AFAIK, the Synclavier was able to do FM, additive, sampling and resynthesis. Don't know about filters and/or envelopes. Does anyone know how can the simple UVI Workstation emulate all these synthesis techniques?

This was written at the end of the article posted in the OP:

"* Synclavier®, NED & New England Digital are trademarks of their respective owners and are not affiliated, endorsed, connected or sponsored in any way to this website or any of our affiliate sites ; therefore do not be confused between UVI and Synclavier®.

** None of the video examples, songs, and/or pictures, product name are affiliated, endorsed, or sponsored by Synclavier or the owner of the trademark Synclavier®. UVI is not affiliated with, sponsored by, or endorsed by Synclavier, NED or any of their affiliates or subsidiaries."

Besides that the design of the knobs and the Terminal are exactly like the ones in the Synclavier.

I had purchased the Enhus Synclavier FM Kontakt library a while ago which is awesome IMO: http://enhus.com/

One of the most expensive Kontakt libraries i got so far. It uses no scripts so you get mostly the pure samples. Some samples/presets using the Resynthesis engine are included too.

UVI THe Beast looks quite interesting but as soon as i don't purchase an iLok key it would make no sense to get it.

One of the best FM soundbanks IMO is the "Gloss Spells" for FM8 made by Lotuzia: http://www.lelotusbleu.fr/catalog/produ ... ucts_id=91
Another awesome one is the FS1R library from Hollow Sun:
http://www.hollowsun.com/HS2/products/FS1R/index.htm

For additive synthesis i got Cameleon 5000 and Alchemy but for programming from scratch it's not really easier than doing FM synthesis IMO.

Ingo

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:38 pm

Ingonator wrote:UVI THe Beast looks quite interesting but as soon as i don't purchase an iLok key it would make no sense to get it

Yeah, without iLok it will not run at all, not even in demo mode.

Thanks for the Enhus tip, there's a free taster of the Synclavier library there

MrDuke · Post by **MrDuke** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:06 am

I just now saw this. UVI produces beautiful instruments (those GUIs are just pure candy, gorgeous) - but I feel they're all overpriced for such "niche products". $200 is a lot for a sample-based instrument library. The earlier Emulation II had a similar price.

I don't have a problem with iLok per se, I use it with MOTU's BPM and don't have a tendency to misplace it

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:29 am

MrDuke wrote:I just now saw this. UVI produces beautiful instruments (those GUIs are just pure candy, gorgeous) - but I feel they're all overpriced for such "niche products". $200 is a lot for a sample-based instrument library. The earlier Emulation II had a similar price.

I don't have a problem with iLok per se, I use it with MOTU's BPM and don't have a tendency to misplace it

Very expensive and don't forget to add Tax on top.

UVI 199.00 USD
Tax 19.6%: 39.00
Total: 238.00

The engine is not the may west either. Large sample libraries like for example Kawai-EX-PRO, take an age to load. String Machines is another.

C-note · Post by **C-note** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:41 am

Just purchased my first UVI plugs (Darklight IIX an Emulator II) from Bigfish Audio over the weekend for $279 on sale. Should have bought the beast also... Fantastic sound and interfaces. Will buy Mach5 3 tomorrow.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:58 pm

Aloysius wrote:Very expensive and don't forget to add Tax on top.

UVI 199.00 USD
Tax 19.6%: 39.00
Total: 238.00

We have them for $169.15 each with no tax outside of California when you use the "fall15" coupon code.

DHR53 · Post by **DHR53** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:27 pm

I have Plugsound Pro which I got for $99. a long time ago... The pianos in there alone were worth it. The new UVI engine is very well done, and a nice interface. I do think the soundsets should be around $99. myself, but if they had more demos of the presets on some of these I might consider $150. for them. As it is, they need to feature the "sounds" more in the advertising to justify the price tag IMHO. I do like the EMU II library but wish it was $99.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:16 pm

Uncle E wrote:
Aloysius wrote:Very expensive and don't forget to add Tax on top.

UVI 199.00 USD
Tax 19.6%: 39.00
Total: 238.00
We have them for $169.15 each with no tax outside of California when you use the "fall15" coupon code.

Excellent. Thank you. I'll keep this in mind. As it turned out, I received a $49 Coupon from UVI which reduced the cost (and obviously the tax). In the end I got it for EUR 142.82 = 180.4959 US dollars (approx')

The best news I got from UVI today is that they're actively working on improving loading times.

''Regarding the loading speed, we are currently working on new loading process, soon available with next updates.''

This will make a big difference with the likes of Kawai-EX-PRO etc.

DHR53 · Post by **DHR53** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:47 pm

Plugsound loads quickly considering some of the samples. I'd like to get the FX library and the EMU II for sure though so may have to take advantage of that.

Failed Muso · Post by **Failed Muso** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:11 pm

If it's any use, I recently posted a review of UVI's "The Beast"...

http://www.failedmuso.com/blog/?p=3056

And I made an accompanying video review...

I've also reviewed a number of other UVI libraries, if you're interested...

http://www.failedmuso.com/blog/?tag=review

cocoazenith · Post by **cocoazenith** » Thu May 26, 2016 11:35 am

The Beast is $59 until the 30th of May 2016.
Is this a sampled Synclavier or a remake based on various soundsources?

They don't specifically mention anything about sampling a Synclavier like they do in
other products of theirs...

"Once again inspired by the sounds of yesteryear, we at UVI have set out to construct our own 'beast'. The result is a comprehensive software suite comprised of 3 complementary digital instruments - each fully equipped with a vast array of both cutting edge original sounds and classic presets. We've employed our trusted combination of advanced programming and meticulous sampling, using the best analog and digital gear, to bring the beloved vintage character of this workstation to a new generation of musicians and sound explorers. The result is an entirely new, comprehensive and intuitive luxury instrument which we are proud to present to you - The Beast."

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Thu May 26, 2016 11:46 am

cocoazenith wrote:The Beast is $59 until the 30th of May 2016.

More than 70% off

That's why competition is good for the consumers

Unlike Synclavier V, The Beast is three headed: it got FMII, the Terminal and also Beast Box drum module

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Thu May 26, 2016 1:26 pm

Numanoid wrote:
cocoazenith wrote:The Beast is $59 until the 30th of May 2016.
More than 70% off That's why competition is good for the consumers

Unlike Synclavier V, The Beast is three headed: it got FMII, the Terminal and also Beast Box drum module

If you want to program your own sounds The Beast does not seem to be a replacement for Synclavier V.
Whilemusing teh UVI Fm engone seems to be possible it does not seem to be the same as the Synclavier and programming additive synthesis does not seem to be possible at all.

In Synclavier you got up to 12 ayers, each wirth additive, FM or both.

Anyway at that price it could be nice to get also the Beast for samples (Synclavier V does not ainclude sample playback) and the sounds that are not included in Synclavier V. At the end having recordings/Samples from the real thing could be nice of course. If you load this into UVI Falcon it is also possible to modify the patches in various ways or layer them with additional sounds.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Thu May 26, 2016 1:48 pm

What do you think of Arturia's new Synclavier V.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Thu May 26, 2016 3:10 pm

Uncle E wrote:What do you think of Arturia's new Synclavier V.

I did not use the real thing yet and also not the UVI library yet (while i am tempted to get it at the current price...) but i really like Synclavier V, independent of how close it is to the real thing. It could indeed sound really beautiful and "crystal clear", also depending on how it is programmed. The synthesis in this is really deep with up to 12 layers. Each layer has a carrier and modulator that could be edited in an additive way and those resulting waveforms could be then used for FM. The FXs are not so bad too.
The sound quality also depends on the quality setting in the preferences menu (e.g. noise floor setting, oversampling amount and bit depth between 8 and 24-bit).

Anyway for those intersted in the sample playback of the original Synclavier the Arturia plugin does not offer this. In that case the UVI library seems to be a better choice (or other sampler plugins). As a Lo-Fi sampler i like using Waldorf PPG Wave 3.V which usually gives nice results with all samples i load into it and for more complex stuff i got e.g. Falcon, Synthmaster and Kontakt 5 (not to forget my Waldorf Blofeld with the built-in sample playback...).

Laoding "The Beast" library in Falcon could give an approach to some quite complex sounds if you layer the included presets with some additional sounds created from scratch or adding additional/different modules to existing presets.

UVI The Beast