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tapper mike · Post by **tapper mike** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:04 am

I loved the stereo placement of the beatles. I think they were just trying to get true surround sound ahead of it's time.

cron · Post by **cron** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:20 am

tapper mike wrote:I loved the stereo placement of the beatles. I think they were just trying to get true surround sound ahead of it's time.

Ahh, the good old days of stereo when people didn't have a clue what to do with it. "Let's put half the things over here, and all the other things over here!"

I think surround sound is kind of in the same place right now. "Let's have a basic stereo mix in which things fly behind you/fly in a circle around you occasionallly!"

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:45 pm

tapper mike wrote:I loved the stereo placement of the beatles. I think they were just trying to get true surround sound ahead of it's time.

There's a great story (possibly apocryphal) about how Kit Lambert got the Who to march up and down past a mic while recording 'Cobwebs and Strange' as he told them that he wanted to get a stereo effect of them moving from one speaker to another, aparently believing it would work until he tried it. The end result is just some variation in volume as he only used one mic...

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:46 pm

bluedad wrote:
vurt wrote:i don't think people spend enough time referencing the beatles, who were great.
Fixed that for you, John!

dont get me wrong, i like the beatles (from revolver onwards anyway) but i just dont see them as the be all and end all of music. while they did indeed write some great tracks, they also did some bits that werent so great. but thats the same with most bands/musicians i guess.

Perimeter Sound · Post by **Perimeter Sound** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:43 pm

Probably the worst kind of 'burn out' I experience is when I get in a rut, of any kind, even a rut of my own style or whatever ha-ha. And it's bound to happen, to any/every one at times. The only *cure* I know of, is to let it go, take a break. Usually a few days or a week away from the music/audio stuff, is enough time to want to step back in and either keep digging that rut deeper ha-ha, or to maybe start to carve out a different path.

I've never had a ton of luck with 'forcing' anything, but trying out new or different things is almost always good. I just find that I have to -make friends- with those ideas in my head before trying to actually do them, so it seems less like forcing myself to change direction ? But for the OP, if you're tired of computer clicking and all that crap, go play your guitar/bass/whatever for a couple of weeks, heck, take a month or so. You'll be glad you did, and you'll feel refreshed when you do come back to maybe record a few new tracks you've come up with during that break.

CapnLockheed · Post by **CapnLockheed** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:46 pm

But for the OP, if you're tired of computer clicking and all that crap, go play your guitar/bass/whatever for a couple of weeks, heck, take a month or so. You'll be glad you did, and you'll feel refreshed when you do come back to maybe record a few new tracks you've come up with during that break. Smile

Actually...I've been doing EXACTLY that! Did nothing but play guitars for a few weeks and then....instead of just jumping back in with new stuff I started re-mixing the analog 8-trk tape masters that I transferred to digital a while back. NOW that I've got my head in the right space, I'm gonna build a fresh DAW
and dive back in!

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:56 pm

I guess burnout is a relative thing though, and if you stick with one thing you're going to burnout more easily.

I would suggest to anyone that you try to be broad with music and have some other outlets available in addition to just sticking with one instrument or approach and a very narrow genre approach.

In the last couple of weeks I probably haven't done much with my DAW other than tweak some recorded voice for this month's Music Cafe contest, and spent a lot more time playing dizi, banjo and trumpet. All very different things to do, so it's much harder to get bored, and if I get bored with those I'll play other instruments. Unlike many DAWs, I can take any of those to another location and not need power, a desk, keyboard, etc.

peppy197 · Post by **peppy197** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:11 pm

I have been thinking of just that a lot lately...burnout prevention

As in: Why is it that I can quickly make an intro (an intro to nowheres?_is that the nowheres man? ) of say 50 seconds that sounds so subtle, serene, nice, together, SWEET.....

Then, after 40 reruns of it it sounds like .....well... Jingle Bells at Christmas again, which although I loved as a 3 year old, it sucksducks now.

HOW to avoid getting there? Practice your craft so that you dont need the 40 and more redos....thats what Ive been thinking

So now I am back to getting a portfolio of 25+ Jazz Standards up to speed

, and shape.

I am leaning towards Jazz Art (a la artsy Zappa?) similar to Rock Art (Prog) back with pinky and the boys.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:51 am

V0RT3X wrote:Im 27 and I live with burnout on a daily basis due to Insomnia.

It's getting better though since i've changed my schedules around..

I relate. 36. Burnout from zero deep sleep. Eliminating scheduling helps reduce sleep anxiety but now I just rotate through nocturnal and diurnal schedules all month long.

Music-wise, I lost a lot of my creative spirit to psych drugs and stress. That's in the past but the burnout is still present. I've lots of gear, but a few key missing bits (mic preamp) and no good way to set it all up so that its cozy and at my fingertips. Plus, the whole floor is inhospitable in summers. So much stuff, so little productivity. Too much self censorship. Thanks, "healthcare."