Kirk Hunter Studios FAQs, Tips and Peer2Peer Info Sharing Thread

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I'll echo the above question and ask: "Any news?"

Also, would anyone be able to link me to the comparison between Kirk Hunter Strings and Cinematic Strings 2.0?

Thank you.

[Echoes in the Attic]

Did this woodwind issue ever get fixed? And is it a problem in TVEC 4 as well?

I have a question about the pattern maker in TVEC 4: Can you play chords rhythmically? Or only arpeggiated notes?

thanks

[KirkHunter]

Did this woodwind issue ever get fixed? And is it a problem in TVEC 4 as well?

I have a question about the pattern maker in TVEC 4: Can you play chords rhythmically? Or only arpeggiated notes?

thanks

I am totally redoing most of the woodwinds, so a "fix" will be included!

Yes, you can play chords in patternMaker.

[Echoes in the Attic]

Did this woodwind issue ever get fixed? And is it a problem in TVEC 4 as well?

I have a question about the pattern maker in TVEC 4: Can you play chords rhythmically? Or only arpeggiated notes?

thanks

I am totally redoing most of the woodwinds, so a "fix" will be included!

Yes, you can play chords in patternMaker.

Good to hear! I have been on the fence about picking up Diamond/CB2 for a few weeks so I'm leaning ever closer...

Out of curiosity, were horn samples used on purpose in woodwind sounds, or did that happen by mistake? I read through a bunch of the thread and it came up often that people were seeing horns referenced in wind instruments.

And to be totally sure that I asked it right: The pattern generator can trigger the full chord you are playing rhythmically as well as breaking it down into individual notes? Just asking because I've watched all the tutorials and videos I can find on it, and also read the documentation and I can't find anything anywhere about how you switch from arpeggiated to rhythmic chords. And I don't see a control like that on the interface.

thanks again.

[goyya76]

hello Kirk,

i have noticed that some instruments in Concert Strings II seem to have an issue with round robin (for sure it happened to me with one of the full string patches): when playing repeatedly the same note, sometimes the note "jumps an octave" - suppose four samples are triggered in a random sequence, it looks like one of these samples belongs to a different octave.

It happened also on a violins patch, but i dont remember exaclty which; of course, i can do a deeper check and provide you with a detailed description, but for the time being, i just wanted to check if the problem was already known/under scrutiny - i would suspect that the problem (if confirmed) may be just something like just a typo in the samples groups assignement that has propagated through similar instruments...anyway, let me know if there's something else i could do on top of checking the whole library!

ciao&thanks in advance,
Francesco

[KirkHunter]

Did this woodwind issue ever get fixed? And is it a problem in TVEC 4 as well?

I have a question about the pattern maker in TVEC 4: Can you play chords rhythmically? Or only arpeggiated notes?

thanks

I am totally redoing most of the woodwinds, so a "fix" will be included!

Yes, you can play chords in patternMaker.

Good to hear! I have been on the fence about picking up Diamond/CB2 for a few weeks so I'm leaning ever closer...

Out of curiosity, were horn samples used on purpose in woodwind sounds, or did that happen by mistake? I read through a bunch of the thread and it came up often that people were seeing horns referenced in wind instruments.
It was a mistake. The new samples for intervals will be included with the fix.

And to be totally sure that I asked it right: The pattern generator can trigger the full chord you are playing rhythmically as well as breaking it down into individual notes? Just asking because I've watched all the tutorials and videos I can find on it, and also read the documentation and I can't find anything anywhere about how you switch from arpeggiated to rhythmic chords. And I don't see a control like that on the interface.
For sure you can pattern chords. But describe how you want to differentiate between "arpeggiated" to "rhythmic chords".

thanks again.

[KirkHunter]

hello Kirk,

i have noticed that some instruments in Concert Strings II seem to have an issue with round robin (for sure it happened to me with one of the full string patches): when playing repeatedly the same note, sometimes the note "jumps an octave" - suppose four samples are triggered in a random sequence, it looks like one of these samples belongs to a different octave.

It happened also on a violins patch, but i dont remember exaclty which; of course, i can do a deeper check and provide you with a detailed description, but for the time being, i just wanted to check if the problem was already known/under scrutiny - i would suspect that the problem (if confirmed) may be just something like just a typo in the samples groups assignement that has propagated through similar instruments...anyway, let me know if there's something else i could do on top of checking the whole library!

ciao&thanks in advance,
Francesco

I've not run into this octave jumping yet. So if you could provide me with the instrument name, articulation, etc, that would be helpful.

[Echoes in the Attic]

For sure you can pattern chords. But describe how you want to differentiate between "arpeggiated" to "rhythmic chords".

Are you asking me to clarify what I mean by rhythmic chords as apposed to an arpeggiated chord?

Either the chord is broken into it's component notes (ie. arpeggiated) or the full chord is repeated according to the rhythm that is programmed.

If this is possible with the pattern maker then shouldn't there be some switch or toggle to go between the two behaviors? They can't both happen at once since a chord that is held must either be arpeggiated or played as a chord. That's why I was wondering where that is set.

thanks

[Echoes in the Attic]

Ok, I downloaded the free violin demo and I had it backwards. I see that it does generate patterns for the whole chord, but I can't figure out how to make it arpeggiate the actual chord you are playing, without triggering the full chord as well.

This demo limitation is infuriating by the way. I'm reloading it every minute.

[KirkHunter]

Ok, I downloaded the free violin demo and I had it backwards. I see that it does generate patterns for the whole chord, but I can't figure out how to make it arpeggiate the actual chord you are playing, without triggering the full chord as well.

This demo limitation is infuriating by the way. I'm reloading it every minute.

I guess I don't understand your term "arpeggiate actual chord" vs. "without full chord". Do you mean just play monophonic notes up and down to "add up" the chord? If that's all you want to do, then just play a single note and make sure you're using "arp" in the settings of the pattern maker, and just play one note. If that is not what you mean, then please tell me musically exactly what you want your outcome to be.

The demo can't be a "demo" if it last much longer.

[Echoes in the Attic]

Sorry for being confusing. When I said 'arpeggiate the actual chord you are playing', I meant that it should trigger the individual notes of the chord being held, as opposed to triggering the pre-defined note offsets you can enter in the Tones Table.

I think I see what's going on. There doesn't seem to be an arpeggiator at all. When I watched the tutorial video before trying it, I wasn't looking at the notes being played on the keyboard. What I thought was being arpeggiated was actually just a sequence triggered from a single note. I see that there is a chord pattern generator and a sequencer (which the gui calls 'arp'), but no arpeggiator that I can see. The 'Arp' seems to trigger notes relative to a note that is pressed on the keyboard, offset up or down by the amount set by the tones bars, within the defined key. I'm sure that is a nice tool, but I find it much more useful to use an arpeggiator, where the notes being played are the notes that make up the chord you are playing on the keyboard. This lets you play any notes you want, sequenced by the arp.

If you want to see an example of an arpeggiator, load the factory Kontact script called "Arpeggiator". The velocity steps trigger the notes of the chord being held. Most Kontakt Libraries use a variation of the factory arp. Albion ostinatum has an arp (but it's less user friendly than velocity bars).

The TVEC 4 Pattern MAker is cool, I especially like the note length bars that let you set individual notes lengths per step, however it's a shame that it can't arpeggiate, only trigger pre-defined note offsets. If you mixed the Factory arp with what you have there, it would be very useful.

[Echoes in the Attic]

How do you sync it to the host sequencer? I wish I could try for longer but I've already reloaded it about 30 times in the last half hour.

My goodness. I timed how long it takes for the demo to time out when I'm trying the pattern generator. I can barely go 30 seconds before I have to delete the instrument, reload, put pattern back on, set staccato, reset the tones table and try to get back to what I was trying. 30 seconds? Really? Would 15 minutes be so bad? What can we do with a single octave of violins in that time?

[AKJ]

Did this woodwind issue ever get fixed? And is it a problem in TVEC 4 as well?

I have a question about the pattern maker in TVEC 4: Can you play chords rhythmically? Or only arpeggiated notes?

thanks

I am totally redoing most of the woodwinds, so a "fix" will be included!

Yes, you can play chords in patternMaker.

so does this mean that also the TVEC3 versions get fixed or that one has to upgrade to V4 in order to have a working version (which, of course, would be annoying)?

cheers, akj

[KirkHunter]

How do you sync it to the host sequencer? I wish I could try for longer but I've already reloaded it about 30 times in the last half hour.

My goodness. I timed how long it takes for the demo to time out when I'm trying the pattern generator. I can barely go 30 seconds before I have to delete the instrument, reload, put pattern back on, set staccato, reset the tones table and try to get back to what I was trying. 30 seconds? Really? Would 15 minutes be so bad? What can we do with a single octave of violins in that time?

I'll see if I can make an instrument for you that lasts longer. The tempo will play according to your host. The default without the host is 120bpm

[KirkHunter]

Did this woodwind issue ever get fixed? And is it a problem in TVEC 4 as well?

I have a question about the pattern maker in TVEC 4: Can you play chords rhythmically? Or only arpeggiated notes?

thanks

I am totally redoing most of the woodwinds, so a "fix" will be included!

Yes, you can play chords in patternMaker.

so does this mean that also the TVEC3 versions get fixed or that one has to upgrade to V4 in order to have a working version (which, of course, would be annoying)?

cheers, akj

TVEC 3 and 4 will be fixed.