KVR Audio

davidka · Post by **davidka** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:07 pm

Anyone remembers this picture? I hope it'll apply for LUSH-101 aswell.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:16 pm

Regarding all their GUI's....have they done a deal with Roland?

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:23 am

Kriminal wrote:Regarding all their GUI's....have they done a deal with Roland?

I think the GUI's are different enough that they're safe. I mean, sure, this looks like an SH-101, but then again, it's probably got 50 more sliders and 20 more knobs.

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:42 am

I'm liking the hardsync demo. And the GUI. There are some super-bold claims being made, though. I know companies need to advertise, and I know d16 do good stuff (I own a lot of it), so I'm pleasantly excited by this. Looking forwards to trying it out, let's hope it lives up to the hype

awol9000 · Post by **awol9000** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:39 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:I love the sound of the D16 Roland clones, but can't stand the hyper-realistic GUI's. Normally a GUI doesn't bother me, but these particular UI's make these synths unnecessarily difficult to use. Take the drum machines for instance: how much more useful would they be with a Tremor like pattern sequencer? These GUI's take all the necessarily bad aspects of hardware design, and just add the displeasure of replacing my fingertips with many awkward mouse clicks.

I try and convince myself that it's a character thing, and I should adjust and learn to enjoy the quirky workflows, but you know what...when it comes down to it: I just want to be able to work quickly. That means a clean, and streamlined UI that takes advantages of the benefits of software.

+1

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:34 pm

The website states 8 synths in 1. I can see the SH-101 and the Jupiter, but what do you think are the other 6?

core · Post by **core** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:54 pm

osiris wrote:The website states 8 synths in 1. I can see the SH-101 and the Jupiter, but what do you think are the other 6?

I think they mean the synth has 8 layers

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:11 pm

No Ronnie, the very first pic on the website says: 8 Synths in 1....
(Ohhh it's gonna be a CPU chewer..)

core · Post by **core** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:27 pm

osiris wrote:No Ronnie, the very first pic on the website says: 8 Synths in 1....
(Ohhh it's gonna be a CPU chewer..)

It's a multi-layer/timbral synth...

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:27 pm

osiris wrote:No Ronnie, the very first pic on the website says: 8 Synths in 1....
(Ohhh it's gonna be a CPU chewer..)

8 of the same synth in one. Each of the 8 layers are exactly the same. An expanded 101 type synth. No jupiter. However with the added high pass and extra modulations, it does get into jupiter territory. Unfortunately no Cross-Mod though. Although the LFO's can pitch track so I'm curious how high of frequency they will go, since that could get FM type sounds possibly.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:29 pm

Uncle E wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:So I guess Plugiator or whatever will run it... I'm not sure what that format actually is, but even so it seems like it would still be a good chunk of cash when you bought the software too. What... like $700?
There's no format, it's a hardware synth. There are VST editors for it but it can be used without them. It's $381.65 including the Minimax, B4000, Vocoder, and Lightwave, and it'd cost another $100 if you want to add the Pro-12 and Prodyssey.

I assume you mean this?

http://jrrshop.com/catalog/audio-plugiator-p-7631.html

There's no mention at all of it coming with any software at all... the one that seemingly comes with software is listed at $599.

http://jrrshop.com/catalog/audio-plugia ... -9101.html

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:20 pm

zerocrossing wrote:
Uncle E wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:So I guess Plugiator or whatever will run it... I'm not sure what that format actually is, but even so it seems like it would still be a good chunk of cash when you bought the software too. What... like $700?
There's no format, it's a hardware synth. There are VST editors for it but it can be used without them. It's $381.65 including the Minimax, B4000, Vocoder, and Lightwave, and it'd cost another $100 if you want to add the Pro-12 and Prodyssey.
I assume you mean this?

http://jrrshop.com/catalog/audio-plugiator-p-7631.html

There's no mention at all of it coming with any software at all... the one that seemingly comes with software is listed at $599.

http://jrrshop.com/catalog/audio-plugia ... -9101.html

it comes with Minimax, B4000, Vocoder and Lightwave as standard, standalone editor and vsts, the other comes with extras Pro-12, Fmagia, different vocoder and Proddesey - which normally you have to buy seperately.

DrWashington · Post by **DrWashington** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:40 am

The audio demos don't really do it justice. That's all I can say. It's nice. Very nice. The system requirements are there for a reason, but I expect optimizations as the product matures.

In any case... yeah, I like it. A lot. Not much impresses me these days, and I have this palette of synths now that I'll probably never fully learn to exploit, sadly. Let me just say that for straight up quality VAs, this and Diva are about it for me at the moment. This has been a really entertaining thread, by the way. It's amazing how heated you guys get over your tools. But, in retrospect, I'm pretty much the same way. I guess I'm just feeling extra relaxed this afternoon, listening to a Todd Terje remix of Paul Simon that strangely works super well.

I've not played with a real SH-101 in years, but I know the sound well. I'm not sure what A/Bing would reveal, and to be honest, I don't really care: this synth has all the grit and toughness one could ever hope for in a product of this type. Some of the harder, percussive arpeggiations in particular are just MASSIVE sounding, while remaining somehow not noisy, diffuse, or flimsy like crappy trance stabs can be. Huge, but tight and focused. In other words, the oscillators are so precise that they don't really seem to 'break up' like a lot of VAs do when you start stacking voices. They seem tightly gel when mixed right rather than some synths where pretty much everything you do to try to widen the sound results in high frequency digital fluffiness. I don't know what they're doing over there, but they're doing it right. This recent focus on sound quality and accurate emulation above all else by these mostly European developers is incredibly welcome to me. I have all sorts of synths, some that are great for bread & butter tasks and are really easy on the CPU; and, let's face it, sometimes you WANT a clean, surgical VA sound! Nothing wrong with that. These are tools. You wouldn't use a hammer to tighten a screw, now would you? This is why I still like my old Z1, for example: it has its place.

Yes, the CPU hit can be heavy, depending on the preset (how many layers, especially). But, I know where computers are going, and I know the code will continue to get optimized over time, maybe with multicore support at some point, too. Either way, is it worth it? I don't know what it will cost yet, but unless it's something truly absurd, yes. Yes, definitely. This one's a keeper. You'll be hearing this all over dance records in the coming years, in particular. These sounds can hit HARD.

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:31 am

I think this will be in serious demand for electro house producers when its released. Just a hunch..

I really think the Bass sounds from this are nuts!

electro · Post by **electro** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:27 pm

DrWashington wrote:The audio demos don't really do it justice. That's all I can say. It's nice. Very nice. The system requirements are there for a reason, but I expect optimizations as the product matures.

SH-101 is monophonic. What are Lush system requirements as a monosynth with only 1 layer?

LuSH-101