KVR Audio

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:22 pm

Ingonator wrote:The Slim Phatty is no real replacement for a Minimoog model D but it could do several things the Mini was not able to do. I guess the Phatty could be better compared to e.g. a Source and/or Prodigy instead of a Mini.

This I very much agree with. I got a Prodigy because someone recommended it as a "second best" to the Minimoog but the distance between them is just too great for me. I much prefer the Minitaur.

I did a head-to-head comparison with a customer of the ATC, Little Phatty, and the Scope Minimax. In that test, the ATC won, the Minimax was a very close second, and the Little Phatty was a very distant third. Of course, all that means is the Minimax is better at sounding like an ATC than a Little Phatty is, it just happens to be that that customer and I are both huge fans of that sound. That customer bought a Scope card that day.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:23 pm

osiris wrote:I don't know what they were thinking with those ASP versions. Why wouldn't you just get the real deal for that price?
A cached version of Music Radar says the Prodyssey ASB was 749 pounds. Today, that's roughly $1216.00. Ebay has an Odyssey MKII 2813 for $1900.00......

Maybe the ASB's would do better if they were released today instead of back when the prices were roughly equivalent.

Shabdahbriah · Post by **Shabdahbriah** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:23 pm

Back on topic:

Just received an email from d16, stating that a discount on LuSH-101, WILL be offered to registered customers, and a notice sent on the day of release.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:52 pm

Uncle E wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:...and then never posted audio to back up this claim.

Sorry, I'm going to hound you on this as long as you keep making this claim. Remember the last time you posted a nice demo of audio gear? It made quite a dent on my bank account.
Maybe you missed my reply on the other thread:

In these two examples, one was done with Scope synths and one was done with ATC's. Which is which?

http://jrrshop.com/eric/Eric_Dahlberg-W ... s_Bass.mp3

http://jrrshop.com/eric/Eric_Dahlberg-M ... It_All.mp3

I did miss these, and they both sound very good, but I was hoping for something more fair, like an A-B comparison of the same sorts of things and including stuff that tends to break in VA like high resonance full bandwidth sweeps and what not.

I've learned my lesson to not take the bait and try and what's what as almost all software and hardware VAs can come dangerously close in well defined situations... but if I had to guess I'd say that number 1 was the ATC, but that's almost a random guess at this point.

Also, this is all coming out of the Plugiator? What do the Scope hardware DSPs offer, multiple instruments at the same time? I have to say that Scope's webpage is very confusing.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:05 pm

zerocrossing wrote:I did miss these, and they both sound very good, but I was hoping for something more fair, like an A-B comparison of the same sorts of things and including stuff that tends to break in VA like high resonance full bandwidth sweeps and what not.

If you send me an audio file from your ATC, I'll try to match it with Minimax. My ATC's are all at the JRR studio.

if I had to guess I'd say that number 1 was the ATC, but that's almost a random guess at this point.

You win!

Also, this is all coming out of the Plugiator? What do the Scope hardware DSPs offer, multiple instruments at the same time?

These are all out of my Scope card. It provides multiple instruments, many more voices, and total integration into my system (the synths load as VST's). The downside is it's a massive PCI card that will certainly be worthless to anyone else in a few years (it's amazing that it still has some value now!).

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:28 pm

Uncle E wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:I did miss these, and they both sound very good, but I was hoping for something more fair, like an A-B comparison of the same sorts of things and including stuff that tends to break in VA like high resonance full bandwidth sweeps and what not.
If you send me an audio file from your ATC, I'll try to match it with Minimax. My ATC's are all at the JRR studio.

if I had to guess I'd say that number 1 was the ATC, but that's almost a random guess at this point.
You win!

Also, this is all coming out of the Plugiator? What do the Scope hardware DSPs offer, multiple instruments at the same time?
These are all out of my Scope card. It provides multiple instruments, many more voices, and total integration into my system (the synths load as VST's). The downside is it's a massive PCI card that will certainly be worthless to anyone else in a few years (it's amazing that it still has some value now!).

I won one!

That never happens!

I guess what I'm getting at is there is a giant price difference between the Plugiator and the Scope stuff and I can't believe the audio output of the Plugiator is as good... though I could be totally wrong. I just can't seem to find anyone posting about it or very many examples, though I have found some great ones.

I've cut myself off from adding another synth to my collection. I don't have the inputs or the room. So what would I get rid of to add this... and do I care or is it just fun to think about new synths?

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:53 pm

Soooooo about that new software synth luSH101.......

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:28 am

Teksonik wrote:Soooooo about that new software synth luSH101.......

Oh, hadn't you heard? We've already decided it's not good and you should buy hardware instead.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:59 am

zerocrossing wrote:
Teksonik wrote:Soooooo about that new software synth luSH101.......
Oh, hadn't you heard? We've already decided it's not good and you should buy hardware instead.

So you think hardware is better than software?

dalor · Post by **dalor** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:24 am

zerocrossing wrote:
Teksonik wrote:Soooooo about that new software synth luSH101.......
Oh, hadn't you heard? We've already decided it's not good and you should buy hardware instead.

Cool, thanks for my new opinion!

DrWashington · Post by **DrWashington** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:47 am

Y'all are too much!

Shabdahbriah · Post by **Shabdahbriah** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:16 am

pdxindy wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:
Teksonik wrote:Soooooo about that new software synth luSH101.......
Oh, hadn't you heard? We've already decided it's not good and you should buy hardware instead.
So you think hardware is better than software?

He was obviously referring to the inevitable overwhelming demand for a dedicated knob-4-knob, slider-4-slider, button-4-button, HARDWARE controller for the LuSH-101, which is worth waiting for, instead of jumping the gun with only the non-integrated software.

That's how I read it.

Timfonie · Post by **Timfonie** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:24 am

Laptop of Oliver Chesler who is said to be writing a preset bank for Lush-101:

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:27 am

Timfonie wrote:Laptop of Oliver Chesler who is said to be writing a preset bank for Lush-101:

Who's Oliver Chesler?

Timfonie · Post by **Timfonie** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:30 am

V0RT3X wrote:Who's Oliver Chesler?

Just click on the name

(for a Wikipedia link). His stage name is 'The Horrorist'.