Softube: VST pricing vs. RE pricing
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- KVRian
- 1143 posts since 6 Oct, 2004 from berlin
yeah, the softube stuff sounds good to me. i have the FET. i am dying for them to release the Village people dynamite. my life will be A LOT easier when i get that going in RE instead of having to move to logic all the time (and it's not only me. i know a bunch of people who feel the same way about that. a lot of people use that thing)...
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- KVRian
- 1143 posts since 6 Oct, 2004 from berlin
yeah, I could easily believe this. just checkin out now at the moment. sounds the same to me but i'm not an expert by any means [edit, i didn't write this properly a second ago]...ttoz wrote:i've done many null tests with softube FET RE vs AU version on the same sound with identical settings. they sound, um, identical. please don't believe anyone spouting rubbish otherwise.@midnight wrote:bloody hell. really? really? really? really?shalako wrote:also don't expect the RE version to sounds as good as the VST version.
really?
really?
really?
f**king relaly?
Which means without the ssl compressor on reason's desk, it's "ssl" "mix engine" also nulls with logic. And ableton. And i mean NULL as in crank the monitors, and faders to max, and zero sound, Complete silence.
I spent a few hours doing this a few weeks ago.
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- KVRian
- 1143 posts since 6 Oct, 2004 from berlin
also, i just wanted to say, i was soooo happy with the way the softube stuff turned out in RE format. i'm looking forward to their future RE products. a big part of why I use Reason at the moment is because I've been bringin back my old tunes from back in the day with the knowledge that i can have some decent plugins actually running inside reason itself. reduces a lot of going back and forth or having to real with rewire all the time. please keep 'em coming Softube (if you actually read this stuff)
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- KVRAF
- 2514 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
I'm not rich, but have no problem paying twice for a plugin to have it as an RE if its a plugin i use religiously.
There aint too many like that, and the ONLY one that qualifies would have been the FET. Since the UBK-1, however, FET gets less and less use.
I for one, need to do some null tests myself. I used to believe in them, but now, I'm not too sure.
At very large production studio for film located in Santa Monica, I did a very informal listening test between Logic and PT - two daws I never used for my own personal compositions.
I picked the correct daw 10/12 times.
File was the same, absolutely no fx. Same cue for the film we were working on.
So, I'm not so sure about nulls, from my own subjective view.
I really like reason for sound design that I just can't do otherwise. Yet, it definitely has a sound unto itself that I have had to use VST to make it sit right for me. Personally I'm much more of a "give me big, and thick and I'll mix to sit" which is a challenge for all ITB productions without plugs like UBK-1, FET, etc. If RE can make it so I can do it all in reason, I'm more than happy to pay for the convenience if I can afford it.
And I suspect that's what the Props were thinking too: people will pay for the convenience.
Because that has been Reason's selling point from day one: closed system, reliable and convenient.
There aint too many like that, and the ONLY one that qualifies would have been the FET. Since the UBK-1, however, FET gets less and less use.
I for one, need to do some null tests myself. I used to believe in them, but now, I'm not too sure.
At very large production studio for film located in Santa Monica, I did a very informal listening test between Logic and PT - two daws I never used for my own personal compositions.
I picked the correct daw 10/12 times.
File was the same, absolutely no fx. Same cue for the film we were working on.
So, I'm not so sure about nulls, from my own subjective view.
I really like reason for sound design that I just can't do otherwise. Yet, it definitely has a sound unto itself that I have had to use VST to make it sit right for me. Personally I'm much more of a "give me big, and thick and I'll mix to sit" which is a challenge for all ITB productions without plugs like UBK-1, FET, etc. If RE can make it so I can do it all in reason, I'm more than happy to pay for the convenience if I can afford it.
And I suspect that's what the Props were thinking too: people will pay for the convenience.
Because that has been Reason's selling point from day one: closed system, reliable and convenient.
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- KVRist
- 49 posts since 12 Apr, 2009
what are u using now to compensate scream 4 ?shalako wrote:@mrdr I'm not saying it's not possible that the Re vearions would sound amazing, I'm just saying that based on past experience, I have found that when another dev team get involved with Softube the results haven't been as good as the stand alone Softube plugs. Personally (and I mean this as a matter of opinion...) I gave up on reason a while ago, the over sound quality compared with other software just seemed lacking... Note that I was a hardcore Reason fan for many years.
In saying that I still absolutely love Scream 4 distortion!!!!!! not that use it much these days since ReWire is not x64
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- KVRian
- 906 posts since 24 Mar, 2010
I dont use RE's, but my understanding is they are a propellerhead only format, similar to VST right?
So, i can get the VST version that will work in any current host, or i can get a version that locks me to one/a specific software.
The pricing seems to make sense to me. Go down this hallway with lots of doors, or, for a smaller admission fee, go down that other hallway with just one door.
So, i can get the VST version that will work in any current host, or i can get a version that locks me to one/a specific software.
The pricing seems to make sense to me. Go down this hallway with lots of doors, or, for a smaller admission fee, go down that other hallway with just one door.
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- KVRian
- 652 posts since 28 Dec, 2011 from Seattle,WA, USA
Woody Aki wrote:I've always wanted to go for the Softube FET Compressor, despite me having to break my vow about never buying an iLok, but the price is too steep.
Now I noticed that FET is available as a Reason Rack Extension, but check out the discrepancy in price...
FET (VST) - $219/€174
FET (RE) - $125/€99
Whilst finding this to be grossly unfair to VST users, I wonder what Softube have to say about this matter.