How come "Hardware" VA's 16 years ago sounded so good like the AN1x and now....
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- KVRAF
- 2169 posts since 7 Dec, 2005
BTW: I have a Yamaha ES6 with (3) PLG150an cards in it; it sounds unique and I have no plans to get rid of it. Does hardware sound better then software? No, just different. Does analog sound better then digital? No, just different. It ultimately is about application and context. Also: to my ears, The new generation of Hammond clones with Leslie's sound essentially perfect.
- KVRAF
- 20723 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
It sounds like you're pleased enough, ya' old gorilla.tapper mike wrote:Had I been a younger happier self and not an old gorilla in the room I would have been greatly pleased with the response. But instead my thoughts were....finally a decent piano that sits in the mix well. Something "Stienway ish" that has the right character and warmth. Not to dark but still has meat not to bright but still has air.
Krome?I'm mostly disappointed with plugins. I have to go thru hundreds if not thousands of them. Simply to find something usable that's going to settle in somewhere. Plugins seem to me to be more about fine tuning where as workstation environments are all about performance. I'd rather have one kronos or one pc3k (not that either are in my budget) then everything on the software market combined.
- KVRAF
- 20723 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
COOL! Get the VL card.goldenanalog wrote:BTW: I have a Yamaha ES6 with (3) PLG150an cards in it
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- KVRAF
- 7827 posts since 20 Jan, 2008
So far I'm liking Krome. I like a lot of Korg stuff. KLC M1 and Wavestation are my go to plugins and while they aren't everything I ever wanted they do work well when I'm looking for something generic and quick. But I've really fallen in love with the Micro ArrangerUncle E wrote:It sounds like you're pleased enough, ya' old gorilla.tapper mike wrote:Had I been a younger happier self and not an old gorilla in the room I would have been greatly pleased with the response. But instead my thoughts were....finally a decent piano that sits in the mix well. Something "Stienway ish" that has the right character and warmth. Not to dark but still has meat not to bright but still has air.
Krome?I'm mostly disappointed with plugins. I have to go thru hundreds if not thousands of them. Simply to find something usable that's going to settle in somewhere. Plugins seem to me to be more about fine tuning where as workstation environments are all about performance. I'd rather have one kronos or one pc3k (not that either are in my budget) then everything on the software market combined.
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- KVRAF
- 7886 posts since 24 Feb, 2003 from Earth, USA
Only if he already has a breath controller for his ES. The VL card wasn't that great without it. I hate how Yamaha handles preset banks on the PLG150 cards, so I got rid of all 3 of mine a long time ago (FM, VL and AN) and not to mention, they were just 'sounds' with no FX layered with them at all. Quite bland. Give me a TG-77 any day for FM (or I suppose an FS1R, except for the terrible interface it had. Least I sold it for more than I paid for it.)Uncle E wrote:COOL! Get the VL card.goldenanalog wrote:BTW: I have a Yamaha ES6 with (3) PLG150an cards in it
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- KVRAF
- 2175 posts since 10 Mar, 2006
The whole thread has nothing to do with the amount of sounds you can make, but with the timbral quality of those sounds.Teksonik wrote:I just feel so blessed to be living in these times of such great flexibility and choices.......from the time I heard the first synth I owned which was a Crumar Orchestrator and thought I was hearing the voice of God to the sounds I can create today with all the different types of synthesis available I realize just how much progress has been made.....truly wonderful times we live in......
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- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
Yesterday i have played with both my Yamaha Motif ES 7 and my Korg Wavestation EX. For both i got tons and tons of custom soundbanks (+ samples for the Motif).
Both have a kind of sound quality that seems to be difficult to get with softsynth and all that without any external processing. Especially the built-in FXs in those two seem to be really excellent.
The Motif got both an excellent low end and highs to the sound. Many softsynths lack in one of those two. When i purchased the Motif back in 2005 i also checked the workstation from e.g. Roland (Fantom X) and Korg (Triton Extreme). At that time i preferred the sound of the Motif over the others and i'm not just talking about Pianos and other Acoustic instruments like most people do when talking about the Motif...
Anyway i have tested a Korg Kronos at my local Music store and like the sound of that one.
Recently i found that the Tone2 plugins (especially ElectraX) seem to have that kind of sound quality which i like from the Motif.
Ingo
Both have a kind of sound quality that seems to be difficult to get with softsynth and all that without any external processing. Especially the built-in FXs in those two seem to be really excellent.
The Motif got both an excellent low end and highs to the sound. Many softsynths lack in one of those two. When i purchased the Motif back in 2005 i also checked the workstation from e.g. Roland (Fantom X) and Korg (Triton Extreme). At that time i preferred the sound of the Motif over the others and i'm not just talking about Pianos and other Acoustic instruments like most people do when talking about the Motif...
Anyway i have tested a Korg Kronos at my local Music store and like the sound of that one.
Recently i found that the Tone2 plugins (especially ElectraX) seem to have that kind of sound quality which i like from the Motif.
Ingo
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