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A.M. Gold · Post by **A.M. Gold** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:34 am

graywolf2004 wrote:The reason for 5 keys came from natural human limitation of 5 fingers per hand

People usually use two hands to play keyboard, though.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:57 am

A.M. Gold wrote:
graywolf2004 wrote:The reason for 5 keys came from natural human limitation of 5 fingers per hand
People usually use two hands to play keyboard, though.

With an arpeggiator? That would get muddy very quickly though ??

Typically it goes one key for bass and 1-5 for chord

hollo · Post by **hollo** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:39 am

graywolf2004 wrote: Btw have some idea about GUI usability improvement.
Now, to set all the steps to a certain value you have to click each step in a grid editor. If I'll make it possible to drag the mouse through this line to set them all quickly, it will be better imo. What do you think?

:tu:I was afraid to ask!

Great job, you r on your way to make the best Arp!

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:09 am

It loads as an instrument in Reaper and Orion. This is OK in Reaper as I can still route it properly. In Orion, I'm not sure BlueArp is going to work. :c (

I also noticed in Reaper if I close the BlueArp GUI and reopen it, its window is black until I click in the pane and then it redraws properly.

Crackbaby · Post by **Crackbaby** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:57 am

Orion doesn't support midi vsts does it? Mux would solve it though .. MUX + BlueArp are like two best friends

graywolf2004 · Post by **graywolf2004** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:00 am

VitaminD wrote:In Orion, I'm not sure BlueArp is going to work. :c (

What's the exact problem with Orion? Does it load other win32 VST's? If it does, there should be a way to fix it, just a question of time.
PS. I read previous post by Crackbaby later. Well, if it's not possible to route midi out from one plugin into another in Orion, it's bad. It means Kirnu and other arps won't work either. But there should be workarounds like using MIDI Yoke. Also I'd write the developers, all DAWs support it nowadays.

graywolf2004 · Post by **graywolf2004** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:22 am

Addition. Not sure to make patch save this weekend. Too much time I spent on fighting with crashes in FL Studio. But good news - yesterday I ran 2 instances of BlueARP for 3 hours in FL - no crashes so far. Another thing - I almost implemented swing, now trying to imlement restart on key/beat option.

miedex · Post by **miedex** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:50 am

I haven't read the full thread so these might have been suggested but: up/down shift the pattern and draw input with right click.

I love the interface.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:51 pm

Crackbaby wrote:Orion doesn't support midi vsts does it? Mux would solve it though .. MUX + BlueArp are like two best friends

You're suggesting spending 77 USD to get a free arp to work. Where is this money tree.. please mail me some seeds?

ENV1 · Post by **ENV1** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:40 pm

graywolf2004 wrote:Well, if it's not possible to route midi out from one plugin into another in Orion, it's bad.

Its possible, but the implementation blows.

(No offense, just telling it like i see it.)

From Memory:

Lets say you have 2 Instruments, Arp & Synth

Setup: Synth <- Receive MIDI from: Arp

Problem: The MIDI that is being sent to the Arp will be sent through to the Synth as well. This obviously messes up the arpeggio, since the synth now receives both the Arp-MIDI and the MIDI (held notes) from the keyboard. Same goes for sequences generated by sequencers that require a key to be held in order to play/advance the sequence.

Not good at all if Arps and Seqs are a vital part of your music.

(Which happens to be the case in my case.)

Crackbaby · Post by **Crackbaby** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:50 pm

VitaminD wrote:
Crackbaby wrote:Orion doesn't support midi vsts does it? Mux would solve it though .. MUX + BlueArp are like two best friends
You're suggesting spending to get a free arp to work. Where is this money tree.. please mail me some seeds?

Ok, so sorry that i can't jump into your limited sequencer of choice and edit some code so you can use the free arpeggio for free

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:53 pm

Crackbaby wrote:
VitaminD wrote:
Crackbaby wrote:Orion doesn't support midi vsts does it? Mux would solve it though .. MUX + BlueArp are like two best friends
You're suggesting spending to get a free arp to work. Where is this money tree.. please mail me some seeds?
Ok, so sorry that i can't jump into your limited sequencer of choice and edit some code so you can use the free arpeggio for free

No apology needed.. as no one asked you to do so!

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:24 pm

ENV1 wrote:
graywolf2004 wrote:Well, if it's not possible to route midi out from one plugin into another in Orion, it's bad.
Its possible, but the implementation blows.

(No offense, just telling it like i see it.)

From Memory:

Lets say you have 2 Instruments, Arp & Synth

Setup: Synth <- Receive MIDI from: Arp

Problem: The MIDI that is being sent to the Arp will be sent through to the Synth as well. This obviously messes up the arpeggio, since the synth now receives both the Arp-MIDI and the MIDI (held notes) from the keyboard. Same goes for sequences generated by sequencers that require a key to be held in order to play/advance the sequence.

Not good at all if Arps and Seqs are a vital part of your music.

(Which happens to be the case in my case.)

I think I remember getting Kirnu working.. but had a similar issue. But now I can't figure out how to get either working

Thanks for posting though!

edit: got it working by setting it to omni and midi CC but, like Kirnu, it also plays the original notes along with the arp'd notes. messy Orion issue. Oh well.

graywolf2004 · Post by **graywolf2004** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:35 pm

Update: version 1.04
http://www.graywolf2004.net/files/BlueARP_v1.04.zip

Changes:
- Swing option added;
- Restart on key/beat option adeded;
- Fixed crashes is FL Studio, fingers crossed

- Now you can drag the mouse through matrix editor and quickly set values;
- Gate param adjusted to 1% accuracy;
- Added donation option (MENU - Make a Donation, it will go to
URL http://www.graywolf2004.net/donate/)

Restart on key option is still buggy. It made MIDI logic more complicated, so I have more to test. Swing wasn't easy for me either. Until I drew a graph on paper with formulas how to calculate relative (swing affected) step number, I couldn't get it work

So test it and let me know if I got it right. Patch load\save will wait one more week, cause this weekend I decided to do what's possible to do in one day.

PS. I created a quick stub for my website
http://www.graywolf2004.net
Later I'll put there all the stuff like tutorials, links, vieos, etc.

PPS. Too tired already, it's time for me to visit
http://www.gotobed.org

A.M. Gold · Post by **A.M. Gold** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:26 pm

Thanks for the update!

BlueARP VST Arpeggiator development - let's discuss! (Apple M1 ready, 4K)