New Edm production pc
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- KVRian
- 939 posts since 1 Sep, 2010 from Birmingham, UK
I've got that case - the fans aren't that quiet so look into getting a couple of replacements fitted. And a replacement on the heatpipe cooler if you're using that.
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- KVRAF
- 5710 posts since 24 May, 2004 from []1
I'd be interested in building something like this myself but would require some help due to my limited hardware installation experience.
I probably won't have the total cash for awhile but perhaps could start getting some of the components for it monthly until I have it all.
Are there any tutorials or instruction resources for building something like this for relative beginners?
I probably won't have the total cash for awhile but perhaps could start getting some of the components for it monthly until I have it all.
Are there any tutorials or instruction resources for building something like this for relative beginners?
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- KVRian
- 939 posts since 1 Sep, 2010 from Birmingham, UK
I did mine myself with no problems. Have a mooch about for tutorials - I think I followed one from somewhere like lifehacker or whatever its called. My previous knowledge was limited to replacing HDDs etc, but I've not had any problems with my machine since then.Musical Gym wrote:Are there any tutorials or instruction resources for building something like this for relative beginners?
It may not look as tidy as some inside (at least to start with) but I don't look inside very often...
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- KVRAF
- 5710 posts since 24 May, 2004 from []1
Thanks for input. If you remember which one you followed, please post back with link.kx.001 wrote:I did mine myself with no problems. Have a mooch about for tutorials - I think I followed one from somewhere like lifehacker or whatever its called. My previous knowledge was limited to replacing HDDs etc, but I've not had any problems with my machine since then.Musical Gym wrote:Are there any tutorials or instruction resources for building something like this for relative beginners?
It may not look as tidy as some inside (at least to start with) but I don't look inside very often...
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- KVRAF
- 9144 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
The Graphic card and a better monitor help seeing betterGreeny1210 wrote:I can't really upgrade stuff like the monitor etc due to budget, would a graphics card and better psu make much difference ? I would end up having to downgrade other stuff that I was lead to believe was more important for production such as ram/cpu/hard drive etc
I wish budget wasn't an issue but it is and I am stretching myself big time I was hoping to get something decent for about £600-£800 also I am getting on 12 month 0% finance so getting someone to build isn't a option
I think the mobo I have selected has wifi, there is some more options but they cost between £50-100 more and I have no idea what difference there is
I thought I would be able to get a decent enough soundcard with it as last time I looked into all this stuff they were mainly built in that people used, I will also be having a go at digital dj'ing so not sure what difference that makes regarding soundcards, I have always been a vinyl DJ so all this stuff just makes my head spin
You can choose a motherboard without wifi and buy usb wifi adapter for about £20. I have my old desktop in the other room with a usb adapter connected to the router in other room.
I don't think the sound card you want to buy is for music production. I know it is for gamers. It might be a good temporary solution but I didn't use it. I use my integrated sound card now (it is ok i don't have a problem with it) and before i used Tascam audio interface.
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- KVRian
- 939 posts since 1 Sep, 2010 from Birmingham, UK
It was a while ago, but I'll try. I will say, the only bit that made me nervous was fitting the CPU - it involved an unnerving amount of force to get in place, and I was worried about how much heat paste to put on it. Otherwise it was just fitting bolts in the right orderMusical Gym wrote:Thanks for input. If you remember which one you followed, please post back with link.kx.001 wrote:I did mine myself with no problems. Have a mooch about for tutorials - I think I followed one from somewhere like lifehacker or whatever its called. My previous knowledge was limited to replacing HDDs etc, but I've not had any problems with my machine since then.Musical Gym wrote:Are there any tutorials or instruction resources for building something like this for relative beginners?
It may not look as tidy as some inside (at least to start with) but I don't look inside very often...
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- KVRAF
- 4083 posts since 29 Jun, 2011 from USA
I have a small SSD. Windows loads very fast, everything does. Perhaps think about a small SSD for your windows and programs.
I have to regrets with building my PC.
1. I didn't buy a poweful enough power supply. I underestimated the power requirements, one day it blew and took the MB with it. Thankfully the SSD was fine.
2. I bought an i5 2500k. I wish I have saved up a little longer for something more powerful. Though I might start to O/C it.
I have to regrets with building my PC.
1. I didn't buy a poweful enough power supply. I underestimated the power requirements, one day it blew and took the MB with it. Thankfully the SSD was fine.
2. I bought an i5 2500k. I wish I have saved up a little longer for something more powerful. Though I might start to O/C it.
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- KVRer
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- 6 posts since 27 Aug, 2012 from United Kingdom
Thanks for all the advice so far guys based on all that I have changed my specs to the ones below, comes out just over £1000 which in all honestly is a bit much so hoping to shave a bit off, if anyone could point out the areas I could best do this, that would be great also any things that might not be good enough would also be cool
Case
COOLERMASTER SILEO 500 QUIET MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-3570K (3.4GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® P8Z77-V: PCI-E 3.0 READY, WIFI, SLI, CROSSFIREX
Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (4 x 4GB KIT)
Graphics Card
1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE 210 - DVI, HDMI, VGA
Memory - 1st Hard Disk
128GB KINGSTON V200 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (300MB/R, 190MB/W) (Special Offer)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan
Processor Cooling
SUPER QUIET 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEATPIPE INTEL CPU COOLER (£19)
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy™ SE (£19)
Network Facilities
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD
Firewire
SIIG 3-PORT FIREWIRE 800 (2x 9-pin, 1x 6-pin) PCI-Ex x1, TI Chipset
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Office Software
FREE Microsoft® Office Starter 2010 (Limited functionality Word & Excel)
Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Monitor
AOC 21.5" WIDESCREEN LED TFT - 1920 x 1080, 5MS, D-Sub, DVI-D (£89)
DVI-D & HDMI Monitor Cables
1 x 2 METRE DVI-D CABLE (£5)
Keyboard & Mouse
LOGITECH® MK260 WIRELESS KEYBOARD & MOUSE COMBO (£20)
Surge Protection
6 Socket Compact 2M UFO Surge Protector + Auto Power Off Function (£19)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Quantity 1
Case
COOLERMASTER SILEO 500 QUIET MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-3570K (3.4GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® P8Z77-V: PCI-E 3.0 READY, WIFI, SLI, CROSSFIREX
Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (4 x 4GB KIT)
Graphics Card
1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE 210 - DVI, HDMI, VGA
Memory - 1st Hard Disk
128GB KINGSTON V200 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (300MB/R, 190MB/W) (Special Offer)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan
Processor Cooling
SUPER QUIET 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEATPIPE INTEL CPU COOLER (£19)
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy™ SE (£19)
Network Facilities
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD
Firewire
SIIG 3-PORT FIREWIRE 800 (2x 9-pin, 1x 6-pin) PCI-Ex x1, TI Chipset
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Office Software
FREE Microsoft® Office Starter 2010 (Limited functionality Word & Excel)
Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Monitor
AOC 21.5" WIDESCREEN LED TFT - 1920 x 1080, 5MS, D-Sub, DVI-D (£89)
DVI-D & HDMI Monitor Cables
1 x 2 METRE DVI-D CABLE (£5)
Keyboard & Mouse
LOGITECH® MK260 WIRELESS KEYBOARD & MOUSE COMBO (£20)
Surge Protection
6 Socket Compact 2M UFO Surge Protector + Auto Power Off Function (£19)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Quantity 1
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- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester
If it had been a few years back I'd have agreed with you completely, but the latest generation of USB 2 devices have narrowed the field to such a point where the FW vs USB argument simply isn't valid anymore as the are plenty of good and bad examples on both sides of the fence.sockofgold wrote:Egh, I wouldn't say it's a moot point. I personally have had much better luck with FireWire than USB, but everyone's experience is different. Dude is just asking for opinions to help make an informed decision--no need to say anyone's points are "moot," as is it all subjective to personal experience.Kaine wrote: The USB2 Scarlett range from Focusrite scores better than the older FW Saffires for RTL scores. The FW over USB2 arguement has become a moot point with newer hardware as they've learnt to refine the drivers and controllers to optimize the connection.
I didn't mean to dismiss your personal experience and it wasn't your experience that I was referring to as "moot" rather that due to driver development most the larger players have leveled the playing field between the two protocols these days. Similarly I'm just giving my own experience of how the market place currently stands after a shed load of testing & benchmarking!
The 450 PSU is more than enough for the 3570k as the whole rig with a low end gfx card or using the onboard gfx shouldn't pull more than 350w in total. Going up a cpu or gfx card level to something higher through should probably trigger a jump in PSU power output too mind.sockofgold wrote: I would second the suggestion about upgrading the PSU and graphics cards if possible, but I still think you should stick with the 3570k CPU. Seriously, it is extremely powerful.
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- KVRAF
- 1619 posts since 19 Aug, 2004 from Toronto
Well, if you want to be able to cue tracks, and you don't have SPDIF digital speakers; you're going to want another line (or headphone) out. In other words; the Audigy SE only has one line out. For traditional djing that involves cueing tracks; you'll want two outputs - one going to your speakers, the other to your headphones. The Audigy SE DOES have two outs, but one is for an SPDIF cable, which I'm not sure you have a use for. Also, I'm not sure how well you could route to the Audigy SE's separate outputs using a djing app like, say; Traktor.Greeny1210 wrote:I will also be having a go at digital dj'ing so not sure what difference that makes regarding soundcards, I have always been a vinyl DJ so all this stuff just makes my head spin
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