KVR Audio

kev2525 · Post by **kev2525** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:20 pm

I can't be the only one who is checking up every few hours to see if the update has dropped? It's driving me nuts waiting. I wish they would just release it without telling anyone first so I didn't have to endure the wait.

cain · Post by **cain** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:47 pm

think the release date is sometime in early nov that was mentioned from someone that went to prsonusphere last month on the presonus forum.

A.R.M. · Post by **A.R.M.** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:48 am

The only thing I need ...and i say ONLY!!.. is for presonus to steal that smart tool from pro tools!! I would work wayyy faster in studio one..everything else is wayy ahead of pro tools.

samsam · Post by **samsam** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:50 am

Looked at the vid explaining the updates - resampling from a bus has now been added. Not quite the 'record anything from anywhere' I was hoping for but sweet nevertheless.

5Lives · Post by **5Lives** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:29 pm

A.R.M. wrote:The only thing I need ...and i say ONLY!!.. is for presonus to steal that smart tool from pro tools!! I would work wayyy faster in studio one..everything else is wayy ahead of pro tools.

Unfortunately, compared to PT, S1 is still missing:

- edit cursor
- good color scheme
- adding inserts across multiple tracks simultaneously
- ability to edit layers without promoting first
- ability to generate layers when outside of loop recording mode (for example, on overlap)
- EuCon support
- scoring
- clip gain
- good automation editing workflow

Of course, PT is missing plenty from S1 as well, so there we have it

twoifbysea · Post by **twoifbysea** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:46 pm

5Lives wrote:
A.R.M. wrote:The only thing I need ...and i say ONLY!!.. is for presonus to steal that smart tool from pro tools!! I would work wayyy faster in studio one..everything else is wayy ahead of pro tools.
Unfortunately, compared to PT, S1 is still missing:

- edit cursor
- good color scheme
- adding inserts across multiple tracks simultaneously
- ability to edit layers without promoting first
- ability to generate layers when outside of loop recording mode (for example, on overlap)
- EuCon support
- scoring
- clip gain
- good automation editing workflow

Of course, PT is missing plenty from S1 as well, so there we have it

I can't comment on most of your wishlist but S1 has had per clip gain handles at the top of all audio clips since version 1.

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:27 pm

So does anybody find S1 automation curves' editing totally outdated? The first picture is Studio One editing and second is Energy XT2 editing. Why Presonus can't make it the same way?

Dunc · Post by **Dunc** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:42 pm

At least you can grab one of the "dots" and move it to something off the curve if you wanted. You couldn't do that in EnergyXT.
I actually prefer the way they've done it in Studio One. You can also apply "transform" to a curve to elongate it/shorten it etc - way better than a lot of DAWS (IMHO).

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:15 pm

Dunc wrote:At least you can grab one of the "dots" and move it to something off the curve if you wanted. You couldn't do that in EnergyXT.

No you CAN. Just add as many dots as you want (in Energy XT2). In Energy XT2 (And Logic) you can change the exponential envelope in positive and negative (up or down) way very fast. It's really bad in Studio One. I don't know what they were thinking there. Even Live 9 will have this cool curve automation!

5Lives · Post by **5Lives** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:43 pm

twoifbysea wrote: I can't comment on most of your wishlist but S1 has had per clip gain handles at the top of all audio clips since version 1.

I know that and that's great, but PT's clip gain implementation is waaaaaaaayyyyy more powerful and useful.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:50 pm

So I'm guessing that a CPU optimization is out? Or is there any actual discussion of that?

S-N-S · Post by **S-N-S** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:53 pm

looking really forward to this update

the best automation i have used is actually in FL

kev2525 · Post by **kev2525** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:08 am

hibidy wrote:So I'm guessing that a CPU optimization is out? Or is there any actual discussion of that?

There are loads of updates, but since they haven't been specific who knows. It may be there or it may not.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:33 am

Igro wrote:
Dunc wrote:At least you can grab one of the "dots" and move it to something off the curve if you wanted. You couldn't do that in EnergyXT.
No you CAN. Just add as many dots as you want (in Energy XT2). In Energy XT2 (And Logic) you can change the exponential envelope in positive and negative (up or down) way very fast. It's really bad in Studio One. I don't know what they were thinking there. Even Live 9 will have this cool curve automation!

Agreed - it needs proper curves.

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:43 am

5Lives wrote:
twoifbysea wrote: I can't comment on most of your wishlist but S1 has had per clip gain handles at the top of all audio clips since version 1.
I know that and that's great, but PT's clip gain implementation is waaaaaaaayyyyy more powerful and useful.

Er... what? They're EXACTLY the same.

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