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camsr · Post by **camsr** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:18 pm

It makes adjusting the balance between wet/dry faster. It keeps the input gain where it is, for the character, and only requires the adjustment of two controls to get a mixture of both signals. I can't comprehend how that takes any control away, because the wet/dry mix will balance the signals, after they have already been set by the pregain and drive control.

camsr · Post by **camsr** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:30 pm

Actually, I think I see what you are getting at. The same effect could be achieved by having a gain for the dry signal through the plugin. Your preference is more complicated, but if you are working "by the numbers" it does seem more intuitive.

Mogular · Post by **Mogular** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:33 pm

Yep its more complicated, but when you are trying to gain stage which is always a little complicated

- that is exactly the level of control you need.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:34 pm

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@midnight · Post by **@midnight** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:38 pm

Has anybody compared the sound directly to FXPansion Etch DCAM filters?

camsr · Post by **camsr** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:46 pm

Mogular wrote:Yep its more complicated, but when you are trying to gain stage which is always a little complicated - that is exactly the level of control you need.

It's a tricky subject, because the filters can swing the gain so widely in the search for tone.

xh3rv · Post by **xh3rv** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:47 pm

camsr wrote:One improvement would be appreciated:
The post gain should set the level of both the wet and dry signal. As of now, it only sets the wet signal.

If I can apologize, not trying to pile on, but I really think the way it is now is great. With a dB sort of knob it's pretty natural to anticipate, estimate, or compensate for changes in drive, pre-boost, resonance, cutting the loudest frequencies on that scale, etc. So, one can easily get the dry and wet signals to have roughly the same gain; this in turn makes the mix knob much more true and saves a lot of bouncing around knobs that would have to happen if the post-gain was static relative to the mix.

camsr · Post by **camsr** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:54 pm

xh3rv wrote:
camsr wrote:One improvement would be appreciated:
The post gain should set the level of both the wet and dry signal. As of now, it only sets the wet signal.
If I can apologize, not trying to pile on, but I really think the way it is now is great. With a dB sort of knob it's pretty natural to anticipate, estimate, or compensate for changes in drive, pre-boost, resonance, cutting the loudest frequencies on that scale, etc. So, one can easily get the dry and wet signals to have roughly the same gain; this in turn makes the mix knob much more true and saves a lot of bouncing around knobs that would have to happen if the post-gain was static relative to the mix.

That's okay. It looks like a three handed deal so far!

Mogular · Post by **Mogular** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:00 am

First thing I did was hook up the Drop to automap, and after the amount of fun that generated, I can say unequivocally that three hands are not enough

camsr · Post by **camsr** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:17 am

A phase inversion switch would for the filter signal would be nice!

audiobot202 · Post by **audiobot202** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:00 am

The 32 bit version crashed Studio One V2.07 after a VST scan.

dusted william · Post by **dusted william** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:10 am

can someone tell me how to get the LFO to sync to the beat?

I'm on a Mac using Ableton Live.

Thanks,

-dw

JunkMaster · Post by **JunkMaster** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:17 am

Another Etch user here.

Tested this earlier on a few synths lines and drumloops - sounds really excellent, a bit more 'natural' than Etch (not sure a filter can sound 'organic'!

).

About the Hz readout in Sync mode, I worked out by fiddling about that it was doing what it was supposed to anyways (I think!). Mix knob took a bit of getting used to in terms of the positioning of the knob vs. percentage, not that I'll be using it much. This plugin is almost a different beast even if its only one filter type for now. Etch is a bit more visual but TBH, it IS about the sound of The Drop which is top notch.

It's kinda CPU-hungry, as is to be expected but I'll take the CPU hit for the sound quality, even without using the oversampling option.

I'll test it with my external controller and play about with it. Can't wait to give it more of a workout over the coming days.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:47 am

audiobot202 wrote:The 32 bit version crashed Studio One V2.07 after a VST scan.

Thanks for the bug report. Can you please email me your setup? www.cytomic.com/contact

klinik · Post by **klinik** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:05 am

wow!!!
You made an incredible software filter.I think no one can touch this, including "the etch" is miles apart soundwise.
The degree of perfection across the levels of resonance is fantastic. This is a great moment in my life, the same as when I first tried Diva.
I've had almost every analog synt: poly, mono and modular out there, vintages and modern ones, and I think The Drop and Diva are the only plugs you can use for emulating the analog sound and nuances of the real analogs.

Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter