KVR Audio

ramo_and · Post by **ramo_and** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:07 pm

Hi,

I'm thinking of getting an extra pair of speakers for my home studio so I can listen to my mix in more than one system. I have a pair of Adam A7x today. I figure that some simple computer speakers like these could work:

http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/speakers- ... ystem-z523

What do yo think? Could it work?

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:11 pm

Can't hurt at all.

I often reference on a set of Gigawork T40's for similar reasons.

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:52 pm

IIRC, someone posted an article here a long while back about a 'legendary' set of monitors from the 70's/80's that absolutely sucked, but all the greats used 'em to see what their mixes would sound like coming out of the average dashboard or cheap home system. I can't find it ATM, but perhaps someone else might post a link.

Anyway, always a good idea to reference your stuff on different set ups.

cheers
-B

lofty · Post by **lofty** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:33 pm

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:38 pm

lofty wrote:"a 'legendary' set of monitors from the 70's/80's that absolutely sucked, but all the greats used 'em to see what their mixes would sound like coming out of the average dashboard or cheap home system"

- was it these yamaha NS10s?
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep08/a ... hans10.htm

You nailed it lofty! That's the article I was thinking of.

Cheers
-B

ksandvik · Post by **ksandvik** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:39 pm

Yes most likely NS-10s. Painful to listen to but if it sounded good on those, pretty much sounded nice on most systems.

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:48 pm

The classic set of small referencing monitors would be Auratones or Avantones.

Quite pricey for just checking stuff with though.

ramo_and · Post by **ramo_and** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:50 pm

Thnaks for the replies. But something like the NS10 is way to expensive for me as I already have a pair of Adam A7x in my home studio.

Will these logitech computer speakers work with a SM PRO M-patch 2.1? I can just connect it with a XLR --> 3.5mm cable, right?

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:37 pm

ramo_and wrote:Thnaks for the replies. But something like the NS10 is way to expensive for me as I already have a pair of Adam A7x in my home studio.

I wasn't suggesting you buy them. I was just pointing out that pros will often use a sub-par pair of monitors to test their mixes.

Cheers
-B

mrgrim3 · Post by **mrgrim3** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:05 am

http://www.insigniaproducts.com/product ... PCS41.html
These are the speakers i have along with these headphones.

http://www.akg.com/site/products/powers ... ge,EN.html

Theyre decent for the price I paid in my opinion.
Does anyone else use these and if you do would you get better quality speakers/headphones?

bedjka · Post by **bedjka** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:44 am

This EDIFIER 2.1 kit delivers an incredibly pure sound for the money (70 euros). I have had some more expensive multimedia kits and different low budget monitors and i am finaly getting the sound i wanted with this one.
http://www.productreview.com.au/p/edifier-hcs2330.html(check product details)

For those on a very tight budget looking for very decent headphones i recommend this HD-668B ( the 681 version is equally good)
http://www.head-fi.org/products/superlu ... -b/reviews

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:04 pm

Personally, I'm not a fan of having more than one set of speakers in a home studio - not unless you have some sound treatment in the room. Most home studios are far less than perfect, and a 2nd set of speakers will only give you the same peaks and troughs that a fancy set of speakers will. Far more effective (and cheaper) to just check mixes on different setups in different rooms. A pain, I know, but your studio will still either emphasise or de-emphasise certain bands no matter how cheap or expensive your speakers are. You've already got yourself a decent set of monitors, so don't waste any money on worse ones. If you're going to spend money, get bass traps or some baffles or whatever first.

2 sets of speakers will give you a nodal clean mix on your Adams, and the same nodal but unclean mix on your cheapos. What's it going to tell you that you don't already know? Cheap speakers can't stop your room being too small and making everything sound boomy, it won't change reflections off your desk if that's where the speakers are, it won't stop the doubling up of frequencies at all the same nodes and the cancelling out of the other ones. The reason you need to check out mixes on different systems in different rooms is that because they're all different (with differnet nodes), you can average out the mixes and correct some errors. You can have 15 sets of speakers in one room, and you get exactly the same errors with nothing to average. It just doesn't help. If it's properly treated, then it's different...it's also different if you're starting out with crap speakers and thinking of getting better speakers. But you're starting out with decent speakers already.

ramo_and · Post by **ramo_and** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:31 am

Thank you for your reply kritikon!

I'm plannning to treat my room but until then I'll wait with the second pair of speakers.

ObiWonder · Post by **ObiWonder** » Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:24 pm

I actually use an old iPod Dock with an aux in to double check my mixes now. I love it, even has a remote!

What do you think of these cheap speakers?