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A summary of my feature requests, FWIW:

1) Edit all layers (except locked ones) in relative and absolute mode.

2) Mix control for synth insert effects.

3) Voice cycling mode, like on the Oberheim multi-voices, where each new note goes to the next available engine.

4) Possibly a ringmod insert effect, ideally with controls for frequency, keyfollow, mix , and waveshape. I don't know why but I think ringmod will be gorgeous in this synth.

5) Ability to change the colour of the GUI would be MIND-BLOWING, but now we're probably just getting into fantasy land... Even if it's a simple hue filter, imagine being able to make it look like a red 101 :love:
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Spending a day with the demo I find Lush-101 a really fun instrument to work with.

It has a very modern, bright, saturated yet warm and organic sound to it. I'm glad that they didn't stick with creating a perfect emulation rather took it further with all the additional goodies.

The multi mode is great for creating splits, layers and performance sets.

Maybe it's not as good as Diva when it comes to capturing analog nuances but I find it more fun working with L-101 than Diva.

I can still hear a bit aliasing on top when in normal mode so I'd rather stick with the High Quality Mode. Probably it could get some CPU optimization work but it's not killer on my system.
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Sendy wrote: 5) Ability to change the colour of the GUI would be MIND-BLOWING, but now we're probably just getting into fantasy land... Even if it's a simple hue filter, imagine being able to make it look like a red 101 :love:
I remember seeing Shioitor(Pre - Lush-101) on D16's site and seeing red and blue Gui's, maybe they done away with it, maybe the feature is hidden.

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breakmixer wrote:
Sendy wrote: 5) Ability to change the colour of the GUI would be MIND-BLOWING, but now we're probably just getting into fantasy land... Even if it's a simple hue filter, imagine being able to make it look like a red 101 :love:
I remember seeing Shioitor(Pre - Lush-101) on D16's site and seeing red and blue Gui's, maybe they done away with it, maybe the feature is hidden.
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Mushy Mushy wrote:
breakmixer wrote:
Sendy wrote: 5) Ability to change the colour of the GUI would be MIND-BLOWING, but now we're probably just getting into fantasy land... Even if it's a simple hue filter, imagine being able to make it look like a red 101 :love:
I remember seeing Shioitor(Pre - Lush-101) on D16's site and seeing red and blue Gui's, maybe they done away with it, maybe the feature is hidden.
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Yep, that's the picture, anyone found these alternative GUI's on the VST?

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Sadly there doesn't seem to be any mention of alternate colour schemes in the manual or on the synth it's self. It'd be a cracking easter egg, though :hihi:
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loving it so far...

only complaint - I don't understand why you have to go through a special process to be able to automate - ie - in other synths you just click the 'write' button in cubase and you are away - this for some reason needs to you set up the parameters in each layer...must be a reason for this but it is a hassle

apart from that...sounds great~!

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Hmmmm, I believe recently there was a poll on their Facebook where they asked which color people preferred. There just may be some hidden option.

This thing is starting to grow on me more and more. It just sounds excellent and very usable. The CPU hit isn't that bad when making simple patches (much less than DIVA), but once you start using more layers/longer releases, it goes through the roof. There's one odd thing I noticed, every first note of a sequence sounds different/louder than the ones following it. Wait one or two seconds and this behavior repeats. I suspect it may be that the osc resets, but only after a little while.
Anyway, this will be my next synth purchase, but right now I can't justify the price. I would have been very much on the brink on this right now if they were to ask say 100 euros for it.

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Kindred wrote:loving it so far...

only complaint - I don't understand why you have to go through a special process to be able to automate - ie - in other synths you just click the 'write' button in cubase and you are away - this for some reason needs to you set up the parameters in each layer...must be a reason for this but it is a hassle

apart from that...sounds great~!
That's what happens when you add a million unecessary features to a synth. The original SH-101 has less than fifty parameter. They should have just cloned it 1:1 and halved the asking price. Thats the model that was used for TAL-Uno-LX and it worked.
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Personally I'm liking the new features - sync for waveform variation, having three filter profiles and two different modes, the extra subosc and noise options. Little details like that make a synth more enjoyable to use I think.

Not really keen on the included supersaw, I think they did it wrong and while it's usable to me as it is, it'd have been a lot more usable if they'd gone for the proper Roland supersaw which really is gorgeous even if you don't like trance. The three main elements for that are nonlinear detune curve, keytracking highpass filter, and noisy aliasing in the treble end which doesn't leak down to low frequency mud thanks to the HPF. It was a clever little package.
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I agree with "less is more"... The big success of this synth was not the large feature list but the good sound and easy handling.
Btw. is LuSH, Shioitor with some additional features?

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4damind wrote:I agree with "less is more"... The big success of this synth was not the large feature list but the good sound and easy handling.
Btw. is LuSH, Shioitor with some additional features?
I had a look at the Shioitor screenshots. Looks like that was more close the the real SH-101, without non-101 filter modes and the Supersaw:

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The additional pages for mod matrix and mixer seem to be missing too.
Maybe it would have been better to keep it that "simple" or even less (e.g. only 4 layers).

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Ingonator wrote:
The additional pages for mod matrix and mixer seem to be missing too.
There is a lot i like better on this UI.

Like buttons with LEDs instead of just LEDs, and sliders instead of LED stacks.

They should have definitely left it like that.





Biggest turn offs in the final (so far):

- Synced LFOs have no triple or dotted options

- The original 101 programmable sequencer is missing (<- blows)

- Layer voices are being calculated (eat CPU) even when layer muted

- RAM usage is inexplicably high at 170MB per instance



On the pro side:

- Versatile

- One can get very nice sounds out of it

- Nice insert FX (vowel filter is cool)


Final verdict next weekend after some more testing.
Last edited by ENV1 on Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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ZenPunkHippy wrote:
There is a little bit more punch at note on with the real SH-101.


There is a trick :!: which can bring some of that punch of the real SH-101 back into Lush-101.

SH-101 only has one envelope, but Lush-101 has two, so when matching the SH-101 sound two envelopes are not needed. However, the second envelope can be used to add that missing punch. It's all to do with a fine balance of Env2 amount slider, the envelope attack and decay and keyboard key tracking ( to a lesser degree as it is usually needed to emulate the key tracking on the SH itself so it can be pushed too much to help with Env2 as it will depart from the SH-101 sound).

Try that Andy, see how much extra punch you can squeeze out.
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Speaking of envelopes, I notice that a single envelope will not fully open the filter.

I guess that's how it is with the real thing, but it would have been useful to have an option that increased envelope magnitude beyond the SH101 legacy level.

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