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DC'12 - soundware, any thoughts on competing? + Poll
- KVRAF
- 2655 posts since 18 Mar, 2011 from Spain
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
They are not in similar stages, even the prize is split like it... only 10% for soundware. ...and sample packs or patch banks take huge amounts of time to create! ..and reasonable amount of effort too.highkoo wrote:Imvho creating a sample or preset pack does not usually compare to the effort required to create the apps. Nor does the usefullness of the tool in the end, usually. So to have them be on similar stages feels perhaps shitty to hard working devs?
IMO, sample packs / sound sets can be as important but can't be compared with plugins of course.
If you don't have sounds to work with, you can't put a plugin on top, simple as that... not to mention all the time and effort they save you for finding or creating or skill to play a certain something (loops or midi) ...
If you were also referring to the Reaktor stuff or similar, I think we can agree that they can't and shouldn't be considered soundware because they are clearly something else.
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- KVRAF
- 4329 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
Yes I was not implying at all that a good sample pack is easy to create. Its just the comparison between the two.
I put it this way; Even a really bad vsti is difficult to build. A good one is something special. Its the difference between being a racecar driver and building racecars. There are many drivers, many races, many cars. But, not so many people turning out new models of cars.
Yeah it is split up and thats good. I would just not like to see a situation where someones "regular old" 2 OSC synth is getting no attention at all, while something like a sample pack of randomized Synplant sounds gets +1s for being accessible and 'crazy'. Not that that would be bad for the community. It just doesnt feel like the right vibe for a "DC". I mean, I think we also do not want to see forty sound pack entries and five plugins...
I put it this way; Even a really bad vsti is difficult to build. A good one is something special. Its the difference between being a racecar driver and building racecars. There are many drivers, many races, many cars. But, not so many people turning out new models of cars.
Yeah it is split up and thats good. I would just not like to see a situation where someones "regular old" 2 OSC synth is getting no attention at all, while something like a sample pack of randomized Synplant sounds gets +1s for being accessible and 'crazy'. Not that that would be bad for the community. It just doesnt feel like the right vibe for a "DC". I mean, I think we also do not want to see forty sound pack entries and five plugins...
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
highkoo wrote:... Even a really bad vsti is difficult to build.
Don't worry, I assume that would be the other way around.It just doesnt feel like the right vibe for a "DC". I mean, I think we also do not want to see forty sound pack entries and five plugins...
Well, it's more like the KVR vibe.. but dunno.. I'm happy with the soundware idea and looking forward on what will ppl come up with... might be something totally new!
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- KVRAF
- 16735 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Simply, Reaktor ensembles are plugins that work directly in only one host, but, that host itself is a VST plugin which works in many other hosts.3ee wrote: If you were also referring to the Reaktor stuff or similar, I think we can agree that they can't and shouldn't be considered soundware because they are clearly something else.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
- KVRAF
- 4176 posts since 2 Feb, 2003 from lost in music
anyone done a set yet?
I'm thinking of doing a mixed bank for some freeware synth plugins
I would like to do it for pc and mac
does someone know how I can convert the patches from pc to mac?
or can anyone help me in doing it?
and I don't have a mac
I'm thinking of doing a mixed bank for some freeware synth plugins
I would like to do it for pc and mac
does someone know how I can convert the patches from pc to mac?
or can anyone help me in doing it?
and I don't have a mac
sound is vibration, vibration is life
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
nothing so far.. but as soon as I'll have a "great" idea.. I'll be working non-stop I guess.rsmus7 wrote:anyone done a set yet?
I'm thinking of doing a mixed bank for some freeware synth plugins
I would like to do it for pc and mac
does someone know how I can convert the patches from pc to mac?
or can anyone help me in doing it?
and I don't have a mac
pc vs mac .. well, depending on what synth you'll use but in general, the patches should load just fine on whatever platform if the synth supports, no?
- KVRAF
- 4176 posts since 2 Feb, 2003 from lost in music
no idea, as I don' t have a mac to test it3ee wrote:
pc vs mac .. well, depending on what synth you'll use but in general, the patches should load just fine on whatever platform if the synth supports, no?
sound is vibration, vibration is life
- KVRAF
- 6504 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
sorry for the hassle, but i want to know what is the limitation in size for a sound library than can be uploaded for the contest ?
- Beware the Quoth
- 35433 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
bullshit; they're no more that than a sysex file is a synth that works directly in the hardware it gets sent to, or a .xls file does its own sums.ghettosynth wrote: Simply, Reaktor ensembles are plugins that work directly in only one host
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
Krakatau wrote:sorry for the hassle, but i want to know what is the limitation in size for a sound library than can be uploaded for the contest ?
...in that case I suggest setting "limit" in order not to bore ppl with too much and also to have enough so that the pack feels chunky when held
- KVRAF
- 4176 posts since 2 Feb, 2003 from lost in music
I didn't see any limit for the size either,
but I think a ...gigabyte library might be a bit too much
when some thousend peeps wanna download it
but what do I know
but I think a ...gigabyte library might be a bit too much
when some thousend peeps wanna download it
but what do I know
sound is vibration, vibration is life




