SUCCESSFUL X79 / 3930K Builds? ( Mobo + 4X8Gb ram config?)

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hey guys i believe you and i wont/can't argue with you.


op asked for a running x79 solution and i offered him mine.


@jcschild

yes it's sad that intel seems immense unsupportive,i guess it was luck that some people at the intel forum kicked intel a bit :D and i can say that chris,which i believe is one of the developers actively responded to the topics and solved the issues.
yes,very helpful and a bit uncommon. :hihi:


also,now i remember,i had a issue (beside the usb 3 blue screens),i needed to raise the voltage for my cpu using the default bios to get the computer stable when idle,sometimes i got bluescreens.


some tough days but other users didn't mentioned this problem then in my conclusion it could be the ram i use.
intel wrote support for 1333/1600/1866 and 2100 mhz ram.

i did call intel and they suggest me to use the ram recommended from them.


it was a bit of a difficult situation i only found outdated dimms,some of them weren't available anymore let alone no single x79 quad set was mentioned.

i already bought the 1866 kingston quad ram (for x79 systems) and i could not do any test whatsoever because the board and the cpu wasn't even on the market.


you mentioned using 1.35v ram but those 1866 mhz dimms are running with 1.6v when overclocked,the default is 1.5v.

some days later i accidentally found those overclocking profiles in the bios,the "funny" thing was..that's exactly what i wanted to do,overclocking to 4ghz or more but also with energy saving.
i need not to mention that i completely failed to overclock this system manually.

however,it's somehow a fnordly situation.
who knows that intel did a fantastic job with those profiles?
it works so absolutely beautifully i would not praise it like this if it weren't true.:lol:

not a single crackle when going from 1500mhz to 4ghz (cpu is using 1.25v and you can always use the energy options for a constant overclocking value),although i had a stutter once using a single instance of iris but nothing else.
iris does the processing when the key is pressed and this can be quite hard.:D

yes,today i would buy the 1600 mhz version. :P

however,this configuration works but it's sad that you need to find a needle in a haystack. :?


i want to mention that i have several fans installed,so it's maybe not a silent solution,my computer is also in another room.
although it seems with this configuration it is fairly possible to get it quiet.

but then it is a sandy bridge-e system and it was never written that this wont heat up when driven.
maybe that's the reason people do not recommend them.

anyway,for music purposes myself try to balance the cpu,i don't like to go over 70% load,a cool cpu performs faster and overall better (for music).
i even wont go far about 50% load and honestly i don't need it because it's a nice cpu that can handle a lot,lets see.

my temps a fairly low,highest was 55º celsius (90% cpu for video rendering) but normally it is around 40º,ram and other components are cool as well.


..but this is going to deep i think.



@Kaine


intel want to stay out of competition,the ram issues are hilarious,i completely agree with you.
although,it's not that other brands do not have it's issues and it is always recommend to do a search to find a good ram for a board.

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so my question to you is how do you know what speed your ram is running?

we found the XMP profiles to be a good chunk of the issue

also guessing you are not using 8 gig sticks..

4x4gig we rarely had issues with..

8 x 4gig
4 x 8gig
8 x 8gig

major issues

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Can x79 run 2400 DDR3?

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camsr wrote:Can x79 run 2400 DDR3?
I can't find anything offical from Intel, althrough a third party site claims support for up to 2666Mhz but I don't know how true that is. In all honestly I wouldn't choose to fit anything higher than 1600Mhz if I wanted it to just work, or 1800Mhz if I was happy to tweak away at it for a day or two. Memory compatibility goes to pot at anything above that and overclocking becomes a proper chore to carry out properly.

The reason behind going for 1.35v memory (referring back to the other post above) is that the memory controller is on the CPU these days and if your already pumping voltage through the cpu to hold an overclock steady, the last thing it likes you doing is cranking the memory voltage too.

Some 1.65v memory is officially supported on some boards, but you find that those are boards with only one bank of memory channels (4 slots rather than 8 ) as it's filling up multiple banks that seem to load it up and cause errors to creep in. If you drop to 1.5v you can fill all the (8 slot) banks but not with overly fast memory and if you drop to 1.35v only then can you then crank the speed of the memory.

It's a lot of trail and error to get it clocked and stable and what you then realize after all that playing about is that not only do the various memory dimms on the market all have various tolerances, but then so do the various chip controllers available for the X79 platform meaning that none of them behave in the same manor as the others. It's been a fairly fun platform to work on :cry:

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I did read quite through ty.
The only thing "practical" i get is =to avoid 8gb sticks ,
and that every quote i got til now is "uncertain"
(js kindly forwarded me away from intel,though "certified" )-.
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About 1.35v yes i did read from you "Js" in others threads (and only you actually ,first time i read that from another ,"Kaine" for instance) .
But i took in serious consideration ,being th. it looks you did extensive tests about.
1,35 4x4 16gb are far easier to find , so that would be a solution for the time being,hoping to find in the market more choice of 8gb's (in the future)
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Just for all the possible troubles involved in everything , i
i did hope that waiting the right amount of time
to let the x79 "mature" (motherboards bios expecially) ,
i would have avoided -fairly - the risk to meet serious issues.

Damn me if i'm gonna spend 2 Grands in any shop and then ending with a problematic system.
Even if i can somehow save the 20% by discharging tax (i waited also for that )
Really cant rethink the things now ,quite lost .
Was totally on x79 ,now maybe i 'll have to switch dunno.
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Nevertheless, i apreciate a lot all the tips ,thank you guys really

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and i or scan can build a perfectly performing far less cost and far faster system than any Apple so your point?

this thread is about DIY and potential pitfalls not buying a prebuilt system!

Scott
ADK

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Yeah, don't get me wrong, the X79's are awesome once you have them up and running, I'm running a X79 rig myself in the studio with a nice overclock and I'm not remotely stressing it currently.

As Scott said this is a thread about the pitfalls and we're just commenting on what we've seen during testing and what to watch out for when you build your own.

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A customer of Camel Audio is looking to build a new Intel i5 based PC for as little cost as possible. I am no expert, but recommended Gigabyte because that's the name that comes up most frequently as a solid performer for audio.

Question is: doest this also apply to the low end motherboards from GB? Is there a price point where pro audio performance is solid, or is any Gigabyte board suitable?

Peace,
Andy.
... space is the place ...

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jcschild wrote:so my question to you is how do you know what speed your ram is running?

we found the XMP profiles to be a good chunk of the issue

also guessing you are not using 8 gig sticks..

4x4gig we rarely had issues with..

8 x 4gig
4 x 8gig
8 x 8gig

major issues

i laughed a bit when i read it.:lol:


should be normal to know at which speed the ram is running no?

you are perfectly right with this question and i'm astonished that this is a more less known issue?

when i switched to the 4ghz profile i saw that my 1866mhz ram runs "only" with 1333mhz according to the bios and the desktop utilities.

i wrote in the forum but got no reply.:hihi:


however,i don't care,it's running that's the point (and i do not trust the numbers too much) but i can feel with you.
as a system builder you want to have facts and no speculations about xmp.


@alexlotta

i think there are no problems using two pairs of 4x2 kingston 1600mhz genesis ram and a dx79si.
best is to finally switch the profile because that's what you want to do anyway.
one click and it is working.:wink:

no need to spend 2000€,imo,i paid much less.




some other thoughts.

the x79 platform can be a heat burner which doesn't fit to the current power saving trend.
a inexperienced user might want to run it (each core summarized) at 25ghz with 100% cpu and do not care too much about cooling.
handle with care.:hihi:

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They quoted me 2500 actually,insane..
Genesis are recomended by intel you mean?
I will search also avid forum and so on looking for "facts" experience too,i was given that advice.
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I would gladly go through a reputable daw builder ,but it would have to be in Italy,
and i did'nt find anyone "reputable" til now (guys come for a holyday here and make me the recipt ^^)
--I hear you on heating thanks ,that's noted now ^^.--
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So far i restrained the field to the intel DX79SR (SI successor) , asus x79 pro/ws /sabertooth ,gigabyte ud5 and then just looking trough them for the momory compatibility stuff a lot talked .
There is also attention for the asusrock (never looked at them ) pro 11 which is said it will bring a better Ssd controller ,at the place of the lower end marwell ones,i did'nt still read enough about though.
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i take in serious consideration everything you all said ,those are the only factual tips i received
again thanks for your time \m/

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TheoM wrote:you can get a 3700K and 32 GB ram and be assured it will work.
Yes seemingly, the current "X79 situation" is one of the reasons I went with
3770K/P8Z77-V LX, just got 2x8 HyperX KHX1600C10D3B1K2/16G, (last 2x8 later)

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 00#5108000

As far as I can see they are without XMP ,.. but then again ,.. better so :)

I considered the Hyperx Lovo types also, I thought that they MIGHT be usefull for "first try" later when I maybe put togehther a dedicated X79 video-rig

http://www.kingston.com/en/memory/hyperx/lovo

But for now I just had the normal Blu that was in stock local, and look forward to build up soon, I was not able to fully figure out the Lovo, f.eks.
I am yet not sure what chips they use, I had hoped Samsung, but not sure,..

As for X79 it seems as if the solution just is to bite the bitter apple and get the way overpriced 3960X, with better memory controller,.or forget it,.
HM

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Having settled for now with "just" a 3770K on socket 1155 ,.. seems a bit easyer when the 8-cores for socket 2011 is not on their way like I had hoped for, and more or less expected, guess that what comes from Intel having no longer any actual competitor in AMD :wink:

http://www.techpowerup.com/174811/Top-I ... Cores.html
HM

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ZenPunkHippy wrote:A customer of Camel Audio is looking to build a new Intel i5 based PC for as little cost as possible. I am no expert, but recommended Gigabyte because that's the name that comes up most frequently as a solid performer for audio.

Question is: doest this also apply to the low end motherboards from GB? Is there a price point where pro audio performance is solid, or is any Gigabyte board suitable?
Gigabyte is pretty solid overall, great performance for the money, good QC, never had an issue with any Gigabyte board. Heartily recommended.

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EvilDragon wrote:Gigabyte is pretty solid overall, great performance for the money, good QC, never had an issue with any Gigabyte board. Heartily recommended.
Thanks for that. I've sent some details on the user - I think he should be able to build a decent system under budget.

Peace,
Andy.
... space is the place ...

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