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robogone · Post by **robogone** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:37 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:Then the discussion got elitist and condescending

Fixed that for you.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:41 pm

robojam wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:Then the discussion got elitist and condescending
Fixed that for you.

ah, thanks for confirming that you have limited cognitive skills.

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:41 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:A musician using a DAW might automate a filter sweep
Automating a filter sweep in a DAW does not make you a musician

The two things are not equivalent.

According to Mirriam-Webster they are:

Definition of MUSICIAN
: a composer, conductor, or performer of music; especially : instrumentalist

I don't see anything here that mentions filter sweeps, or how much theory you know, or whether you can play one note or more on a piano.

If musician is so absolute a term that it only specifies a certain level of ability, why do we have phrases like "talented musician" and "terrible musician"? Surely these should be removed from the English language.

Help! Where are the grammar police? I want to report a crime in progress!!!

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:41 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote: My argument remains ..
A musician using a DAW might automate a filter sweep
Automating a filter sweep in a DAW does not make you a musician

The two things are not equivalent.

where exactly then is the cutoff point between being a musician and not being a musician?

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:42 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:
robojam wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:Then the discussion got elitist and condescending
Fixed that for you.
ah, thanks for confirming that you have limited cognitive skills.

Thanks for confirming that you have no clue what the word 'cognitive' means and that you don't understand humor.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:43 pm

robojam wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:A musician using a DAW might automate a filter sweep
Automating a filter sweep in a DAW does not make you a musician

The two things are not equivalent.
According to Mirriam-Webster they are:

Definition of MUSICIAN
: a composer, conductor, or performer of music; especially : instrumentalist
I don't see anything here that mentions filter sweeps, or how much theory you know, or whether you can play one note or more on a piano.

If musician is so absolute a term that it only specifies a certain level of ability, why do we have phrases like "talented musician" and "terrible musician"? Surely these should be removed from the English language.

Help! Where are the grammar police? I want to report a crime in progress!!!

Carefully read what I wrote. Then read your reply. Then think for 10 minutes. Then do it again. Maybe it will eventually sink in. Kind of like doing scales, only with language.

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:44 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:Carefully read what I wrote. Then read your reply. Then think for 10 minutes. Then do it again. Maybe it will eventually sink in. Kind of like doing scales, only with language.

Sorry, I forgot to add patronizing along with elitist and condescending.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:45 pm

robojam wrote: Thanks for confirming that you have no clue what the word 'cognitive' means and that you don't understand humor.

cognitive in this context = ability to produce and understand language

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:47 pm

robojam wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:Carefully read what I wrote. Then read your reply. Then think for 10 minutes. Then do it again. Maybe it will eventually sink in. Kind of like doing scales, only with language.
Sorry, I forgot to add patronizing along with elitist and condescending.

I provide context, description and basis. You provide insults.

Who is condescending in that context?

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:49 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:
robojam wrote: Thanks for confirming that you have no clue what the word 'cognitive' means and that you don't understand humor.
cognitive in this context = ability to produce and understand language

Dictionary give the definition as:

based on or capable of being reduced to empirical factual knowledge

Yet you're completely unable to answer vurt's question or the similar ones that I've asked. It seems that you're not the best qualified to attempt to find lack of cognitive ability in others.

How about answering vurt's question? Where is the cutoff? We'd all like to know and neither you or anyone else in your clique has been able to answer that so far.

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:51 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:I provide context, description and basis. You provide insults.

Who is condescending in that context?

Condescending is obviously another word you don't understand then as insults do not equal condescending.

And as for the context, description and basis, they're all lacking when it comes to providing an answer to the question about where the cutoff in ability or whatever is when it comes to determining who is a musician and who is not.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:54 pm

vurt wrote: where exactly then is the cutoff point between being a musician and not being a musician?

I was wondering when that would get asked ... It's an awesome question...

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:54 pm

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:58 pm

robojam wrote: Condescending is obviously another word you don't understand then as insults do not equal condescending.

Well you verified you don't know what cognitive means, and now you've done the same with condescending. You probably misuse and misunderstand decadence as well.

debra1rlo · Post by **debra1rlo** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:03 pm

decadence is teh bestest when u misuse it, otherwise ur not doin' it right!

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