Linux...anybody using it?

[grymmjack]

Thanks for the info.

In the meantime I found how I can install UbuntuStudio (great distro btw) and then Unity*/KDE*/Gnome 3** and possible more (eg cinnamon, but I am not sure).

This way I can have the best of both worlds! Just choose your poison at log in.


*on the console type: sudo apt-get install U/K/Xubuntu-desktop

** this one you can get on the software center, I don't know why you cant get the others too(?)

This is what I did. I found that Unity while very friendly isn't my ideal, I liked Xubuntu much more.

[grymmjack]

codec: Can you shed some light on FST and how to get VST/VSTi working in a similar tutorial?

I'm not able to find much information on this, thanks.

[MachFront]

codec_spurt,
You're absolutely correct.
I now recall that there was a driver that may or may not have solved the issue.
Funny...I have a great memory, but I guess I was frustrated enough at the time that I cannot recall specifics of something that occurred and I looked into only about 10 months ago. lol

Thanks for the help.

I don't even remember if I tried the updated driver at the time or not, or if I did not, why.

Odd.

To be brutally honest, I think I'll just 'try again' and use a XFCE (or LXDE...? izzat right?) environment for whichever distro I use.

Will the drivers still be something I may wish to shove onto the old box anyhow, ya think? (machine from '07 with an AMD X2 4400+, on-board graphics blew so I bought a low-tier graphics card in '09 just to clean it up and play ten-year-old games like GTA3 and Dungeon Siege, ;D)

[MachFront]

...I liked Xubuntu much more.

For real.

And for myself...Lununtu even more.

The more I looked into (and messed with on Live discs) minimal distros...it basically made me wish, seeing those very tight, crisp, all-business things like TinyCore and Puppy and Lubuntu..that there was a super-quick-old-school-uber-70s-Marvel-Flash-fast(move molecules through everything)-audio-midi-ClockDVA-workstation based on them.
I mean...like... TinyCoreEBM or...Puppy_Skinny or something.

[glokraw]

You must mean this one:

http://www.getstudio1337.com/

Cheers

[grymmjack]

...I liked Xubuntu much more.

For real.

And for myself...Lununtu even more.

The more I looked into (and messed with on Live discs) minimal distros...it basically made me wish, seeing those very tight, crisp, all-business things like TinyCore and Puppy and Lubuntu..that there was a super-quick-old-school-uber-70s-Marvel-Flash-fast(move molecules through everything)-audio-midi-ClockDVA-workstation based on them.
I mean...like... TinyCoreEBM or...Puppy_Skinny or something.

I've been checking out crunchbang linux too. The mnml appeals to me. I used to run fluxbox on my old gentoo install many moons ago and my P3/600 was outperforming my P4/1.9ghz with Windows 2000.

What is lununtu window manager?

[Mr_Bumpy]

Dual booting sounded real nice... but now it boots to Mint by default unless I sit there slavishly to make sure to select XP.

If you are able to at least edit a text file from within Mint, you can make a simple change to the bootloader so that it will always boot whatever OS you selected last by default. In other words, if you select Windows, it will keep booting into Windows each time unless you select Mint, and vice versa. Of course there are the usual disclaimers about borking your PC if you do it wrong, but these steps are pretty easy and low-risk:

1) In Mint, open a terminal, or if your desktop environment isn't stable enough, you can use a virtual terminal by pressing CTRL-ALT-F1 (you can get back to the graphical interface with CTRL-ALT-F7).

2) Type:

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sudo nano /etc/default/grub

to edit the boot loader configuration file.

3) Find the line that starts with GRUB_DEFAULT= and change the number (probably a 0) to saved. The line should now look like this:

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GRUB_DEFAULT=saved

Optionally you could change this number to the entry number for your Windows install (when booting your PC, simply count down from the top of your boot menu, starting with 0, to get your number). If you add a number instead of saved, then skip step 4.

4) Create a new line that says:

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GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true

5) You can also change the value of GRUB_TIMEOUT= if you want the boot menu to take less time before booting the OS. This value is in seconds.

6) Press CTRL-X to exit Nano and press 'Y' to save changes to the file.

7) After you have exited from Nano, run this command to update GRUB with the changes:

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sudo update-grub

Well, it just so happened I'd rescued a co-workers ancient laptop and, being in the midst of this, decided I'd dual-boot with Linux there as well (Xubuntu). So...to see what may occur to my own machine (and since the state of this laptop wasn't of great import to the person), I uninstalled Linux... the computer would no longer boot. I read and read and read until I'd screamed more than any person on the face of the planet has screamed. The solutions existed if I recall.. weird and odd and difficult and far beyond me. That's what I get.

Yeah, I remember having to restore the boot loader from the Windows OS disc. It's not too difficult to do once you know the steps, but it's not something your average non-IT person will probably feel comfortable with.

That is one of the downsides to Linux or any alternative OS: you have to have a lot of technical knowledge (hard disk partitioning, drivers, etc.) in some cases to get it working just right on your hardware. The convenience with Windows is that it comes pre-installed on your hardware with all of the drivers already set up.

[Mr_Bumpy]

What is lununtu window manager?

Lubuntu uses LXDE.

[seismic1]

That is one of the downsides to Linux or any alternative OS: you have to have a lot of technical knowledge (hard disk partitioning, drivers, etc.) in some cases to get it working just right on your hardware. The convenience with Windows is that it comes pre-installed on your hardware with all of the drivers already set up.

Have you tried installing Windows as an alternative boot on a Linux machine? That made this stuff feel like a walk in the park. I haven't tried it for a few years but it wasn't straightforward.

[Frantz]

That is one of the downsides to Linux or any alternative OS: you have to have a lot of technical knowledge (hard disk partitioning, drivers, etc.) in some cases to get it working just right on your hardware. The convenience with Windows is that it comes pre-installed on your hardware with all of the drivers already set up.

For what it's worth, I recently successfully installed Xubuntu as a dual boot on three Windows PCs of different makes. I am far from a Linux wizard but it went smoothly each time. (Although I can't get mobile broadband working on my netbook but that is a common problem that is notoriously difficult to solve.) I think Linux distros are getting more user friendly. It's a shame that PCs are no longer sold with Linux as an option for the OS.

[Mr_Bumpy]

That is one of the downsides to Linux or any alternative OS: you have to have a lot of technical knowledge (hard disk partitioning, drivers, etc.) in some cases to get it working just right on your hardware. The convenience with Windows is that it comes pre-installed on your hardware with all of the drivers already set up.

Have you tried installing Windows as an alternative boot on a Linux machine? That made this stuff feel like a walk in the park. I haven't tried it for a few years but it wasn't straightforward.

Oh, no doubt. I always install Windows first and then Linux, because the other way around is much, much harder as Windows obliterates the bootloader, making it impossible to boot into your Linux OS.

[Mr_Bumpy]

It's a shame that PCs are no longer sold with Linux as an option for the OS.

Ubuntu PC Sales Skyrocket in 2011

[seismic1]

..... Windows obliterates the bootloader, making it impossible to boot into your Linux OS.

I always felt that was inconsiderate at best, and in my more lucid moments, downright destructive

[Frantz]

It's a shame that PCs are no longer sold with Linux as an option for the OS.

Ubuntu PC Sales Skyrocket in 2011

The article says Ubuntu is shipping in China and Europe. I have not seen it in the US for the last few years.

[fedexnman]

It's a shame that PCs are no longer sold with Linux as an option for the OS.

Ubuntu PC Sales Skyrocket in 2011

The article says Ubuntu is shipping in China and Europe. I have not seen it in the US for the last few years.

Microsoft , Apple , and Google are USA companies , so I imagine you wont see Linux computers in the USA for sale, its a shame really . I did hear that they sold a low end computer at Walmart with Linux on it at one time .