192khz monitors..

[psychoxkps]

best sound quelity? i knowed it.... but little question for end: r u sure i dont need 192khz spdif cables? i just read wrong? that dont exist? it was maybe only mine deep dream but i think i saw it once..

now i know 192khz monitors is good thing.. thank you olepro for that by shovel explainnation.. others too big thanks:)

[kmonkey]

This thread is like a sick joke of my youth entering in to audio world.....

[psychoxkps]

kmonkey and cant u tell me by shovel for what is good 192khz monitors when u telling it isnt about sound quality? be cool and do it for me please.. because at your last post i dont understand nothing..

[t3toooo]

the neumanns kh 120-d supporting sample rates up to 192 khz.

i've heard the neumann kh 120-a monitors which i would prefer because my soundcard is already good enough,hmmm,goody

[kmonkey]

kmonkey and cant u tell me by shovel for what is good 192khz monitors when u telling it isnt about sound quality? be cool and do it for me please.. because at your last post i dont understand nothing..

Ok i'll try to be as short as possible. You may or may not get it depending on what you want to believe or check the actual facts.


Your 192khz monitor and soundcard does not have anything with your real world goal (assuming that you are here to care and to produce music).

Why so? Because they are used mostly as marketing numbers which are used to tell you that you are going to get something "big" or whatever.

The point is (as someone mentioned) that your ears can likely or unlikely hear nothing above 20khz. Do you understand that you can't hear anything above 20khz?? Try it yourself. Generate test tones and try to hear which is last one you can hear? Depending on your age and several other factors it is very likely that your own personal top hearing treshold is somewhere around 18khz.

Do you understand that there is no point in 192khz then? These frequencies are above limit of human hearing and mostly these numbers are there to confuse uninformed users (my imho) and lastly to get in to spec sheet of a product. Kinda like megapixel value in photo cameras. People usually think they are getting better picture if they have more megapixel written on the box (which is far far away from truth)

That is one reason. And there are a lot more reason why you shouldn't care about your soundcard numbers and monitors. What you are seeking is mostly working at 44khz (every audio CD out there is 44khz - it is industry standard) or if you have superb cpu then work at 96khz. Invest in some room acoustic treatment and measure your room response. This will get you far closer to better sound in your mix in the long run over buying soundcard and monitors which are labeled as 192khz.

Your monitor is important yes but not because it say 192khz on them. What you should care is how accurately they can produce music frequencies and how accurately your room is affecting those frequencies. When you get these informations and when you "tune" your room and monitors you will then "monitor" your sound correctly which will produce correct results. So what you are seeking is not 192 khz on monitors you seek for monitors with good frequency response (flat as possible). If you have money try with Event Opal because they are pretty good and lately event is shipping room measurement microphone with them and software for tuning them. There are good youtube videos on event channel so try to look on them.

I don't know i could write 100 other reason but i don't have time. Anyway you'll get it once and then hopefully you'll just create music.[/list]

[psychoxkps]

that can be pretty sure what u talking kmonkey.. but one maybe clever man maybe not once telled me 96khz is in some effects not doing smearing.. u know something about this? is it true? do i need 96khz monitors & cables for use this? and maybe dont 192khz have also some feature of something like smearing? maybe smearing v2 or whatever:D or last time i ask.. is 44.1khz absolutely full sound? this question is probably mine last on this topic.........................

[BertKoor]

Try this approach: do a test project in 48kHz and switch the sampling rate of your audio interface to 192kHz. Listen weather you can hear a difference compared to 48kHz. If not, then case closed right??

[psychoxkps]

but i dont know what filters do that.. only some filters do that i read on my old thread but maybe not.. iam just asking if that smearing is true and if is do i need a 192khz interface monitors and cables? if u arnt sure dont reply but i read it somewhere.. pleaseee:'(

[BertKoor]

Some filters do and some don't smear. Depends on their implementation...
Weather smearing is really an issue is another discussion.

The fix for this (moving up the artefacts some octaves) can be:
* run the whole project at higher sampling rate
* run the plugin inside a wrapper plugin which oversamples
* export the project using higher sampling rate, then convert back to your preferred sampling rate (e.g. 44.1 kHz for burning CD audio

The last two things can be done with all audio interfaces. So no, it is not needed.

[psychoxkps]

oh.. then ok bertKoor.. i take a permanent break about 192khz.. i forget about higher sampling rates.. thank You!!

[Tricky-Loops]

Since I use 192 khz sample rate, all bats are flying in my house and making music...

Seriously, the higher the sample rate, the better higher frequencies can be interpreted - but with 192 khz sample rate, you'll never can get a frequency range up to 192 khz. With a sample rate of 44 khz a frequency range below 20 khz can be interpreted, and that's more than enough regarding the limited frequency range of human hearing.