U-He's DIVA is getting a freak'n arp!!!!

[Urs]

....tie per step? (gliding when in mono legato)

Isn't that merely a sequencer feature?

Nope. I'll refer you to the wonderful arp in a little synth called Zebra.

Zebra's Arp has a "control sequencer"... it's not just an arpeggiator, strictly spoken... neither are those sequencers in the common sense of the word...

Let's just say: Wait and see. Look carefully at the video.

[VitaminD]

Have you considered making an uber arp (with midi output) in Uhbik form?

[Kriminal]

They prob didnt have quite a few things that are in Diva. Its essential here, feels like the list is very long.

What do you mean? There's hardly anything the analogues do that Diva can't. Why would there be a long list of things missing? - We surveyed a year of feature requests and an arpeggiator is request No. 1, by a far margin.

You're welcome to post a list of feature requests though, if you feel that essential parts are missing.

(btw oscillator phase reset is coming too, as a byproduct from some more research)

no Urs, i mean there's stuff in Diva that your ref synths cant/didnt do...so it wouldnt be such a big deal to add osc phase sync. Ive only been asking for it for over a year

[Kriminal]

It's my opinion that phase reset isn't of much value without also adding a phase knob, so you can define WHAT phase the oscillator resets at. (Added both to Poly-Ana way back in 1.10, Jan, 2008. Urs is absolutely right, NO classic analog synths had this, though I do see the usefulness, PARTICULARLY if you can define the starting phase as well.)

for bass sounds its essential IMO.

[SJ_Digriz]

voices from another room:

Fritz: "machst du da gerade Swing?"
Clemens: "Yeah, fertig"

So indeed, looks like swing is going to be part of it.

glad you translated, I thought he passed gas.

[pdxindy]

It's my opinion that phase reset isn't of much value without also adding a phase knob, so you can define WHAT phase the oscillator resets at. (Added both to Poly-Ana way back in 1.10, Jan, 2008. Urs is absolutely right, NO classic analog synths had this, though I do see the usefulness, PARTICULARLY if you can define the starting phase as well.)

for bass sounds its essential IMO.

So you are saying that none of the classic analog synths are useful for bass?

[Kriminal]

It's my opinion that phase reset isn't of much value without also adding a phase knob, so you can define WHAT phase the oscillator resets at. (Added both to Poly-Ana way back in 1.10, Jan, 2008. Urs is absolutely right, NO classic analog synths had this, though I do see the usefulness, PARTICULARLY if you can define the starting phase as well.)

for bass sounds its essential IMO.

So you are saying that none of the classic analog synths are useful for bass?

am i?

[Echoes in the Attic]

....tie per step? (gliding when in mono legato)

Isn't that merely a sequencer feature?

Nope. I'll refer you to the wonderful arp in a little synth called Zebra.

Zebra's Arp has a "control sequencer"... it's not just an arpeggiator, strictly spoken... neither are those sequencers in the common sense of the word...

Let's just say: Wait and see. Look carefully at the video.

Yep, I saw that in the video, the arp seems to be a sequenced arp with steps, hence why I'm discussing it in context of sequenced arps.

I think sequenced arps are infinitely more useful that straight rhythmic arps because you can input your own rhythm and velocities while playing any chords you wish. I was also assuming the Diva arp would have per step veolicty like Zebra, I hope I'm right about that.

Those are the basics that make an arp useful imo: Per step velocity and tie.

Hell, I always thought you should just port the Zebra arp straight into Diva!

Although I must say, I'm more a fan of the Omnisphere/Corona/Kontakt style velocity bars for velocity input. They are so fast to draw.

[AdmiralQuality]

It's my opinion that phase reset isn't of much value without also adding a phase knob, so you can define WHAT phase the oscillator resets at. (Added both to Poly-Ana way back in 1.10, Jan, 2008. Urs is absolutely right, NO classic analog synths had this, though I do see the usefulness, PARTICULARLY if you can define the starting phase as well.)

for bass sounds its essential IMO.

So you are saying that none of the classic analog synths are useful for bass?

Exactly. But it IS good for guaranteeing a punchy attack on a bass sound. Still, we didn't see synths with this feature until samplers (which inherently always start notes in the same phase, part of their PROBLEM actually!) and the DX-7 came out (which IIRC had a reset option on the operator/oscillators).

You can also do some pretty neat things with detuned oscillators that have phase re-triggered at note-on. Every note on will "flange" from the same point, creating a dramatic effect. As much as I'm a classic analog purist, I have to admit there really are some great effects possible by adding these features.

One issue though is you'll get an audible click when the same voice is retriggered (as happens in monophonic patches, as well as when a currently sounding voice is stolen). But if punchy attack is what you're looking for, you're probably okay with the click.

But like adding any new features, redesigning the layout to make room for new controls, as well as dealing with how that affects backwards compatibility with your old patch format, are the hard parts. Fortunately on Poly-Ana I had some free real-estate on the oscillators to put them in, and had already planned ahead about the future/past patch compatibility thing.

[EvilDragon]

Although I must say, I'm more a fan of the Omnisphere/Corona/Kontakt style velocity bars for velocity input. They are so fast to draw.

+1!

[j0hnny]

Will it be sloppy?

[dsynth27]

I hope that it will output the arp data (notes) to the daw for editing.....

[j0hnny]

I hope that it will output the arp data (notes) to the daw for editing.....

YES! Would be great to edit it further and apply the same swing of other grooves in the track! and add some randomisation!

[pdxindy]

It's my opinion that phase reset isn't of much value without also adding a phase knob, so you can define WHAT phase the oscillator resets at. (Added both to Poly-Ana way back in 1.10, Jan, 2008. Urs is absolutely right, NO classic analog synths had this, though I do see the usefulness, PARTICULARLY if you can define the starting phase as well.)

for bass sounds its essential IMO.

So you are saying that none of the classic analog synths are useful for bass?

am i?

You said a feature that classic analog synths do not have is essential for bass... If it is essential for bass, then those classic analog synths are incapable of bass.

[Kriminal]

It's my opinion that phase reset isn't of much value without also adding a phase knob, so you can define WHAT phase the oscillator resets at. (Added both to Poly-Ana way back in 1.10, Jan, 2008. Urs is absolutely right, NO classic analog synths had this, though I do see the usefulness, PARTICULARLY if you can define the starting phase as well.)

for bass sounds its essential IMO.

So you are saying that none of the classic analog synths are useful for bass?

am i?

You said a feature that classic analog synths do not have is essential for bass... If it is essential for bass, then those classic analog synths are incapable of bass.

Thats quite an assumption you're making there.