KVR Audio

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:31 am

Ingonator wrote:I'll take a few days off from this thread so if someone is searching for information about Raybaster...

...they can go here...

http://www.tone2.org/forum/

sorted.

MaxSynths · Post by **MaxSynths** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:39 am

^^^ And you are invited as well

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:16 am

Just trying to copy some of my useful stuff (especially audio demos etc.) to the Tone2 forum. Will also try to clean up some of my posts here...

Ingo

Cyforce · Post by **Cyforce** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:26 am

56 pages now, long long topic

But bad that many pages of that are filled with SD-wars and arguing stuff.

On the one hand it's pretty nice, that Ingonator spend here so much time for clearing things up, explaining etc, specially because RayBlaster is very unique with the new synthesis and on the first try surely for many hard to understand.
But on the other hand, if on a 56 page topic, 25% of the coments/postings are from one person, looks also not soooo good. Usually on such a big forum it should be an exchange of feedback, mentions, impressions of many users belonging this product and well not 1 person response to nearly every single post of the others.

Anyway, finally found this morning a little bit time to take a look on RayBlaster, and i must, this synth is very interesting. Excellent sound quality, simple layout for usage - not to complex. This new synthesis could be a real eldorado for sounddesigner's i think. As long you didn't take boring standart stuff as waveforms like recorded wavecycles from other synths - which makes in my eyes not really sense... if i want for example a bass sound of Razor, why i shouldn't take Razor direclty instead of dropping a Razor bass sample in RayBlaster? It makes surely makes more sense to use more "different" stuff as waveforms, like fieldrecordings or pretty unusual sounds. Just like a water drop or something, which sounds in the first run not spectacular, but with this synthesis also a lame water drop sample can become something beautiful.
Which i personally really like is the extrem low cpu usage. On some patches with 4x unisio and up to 8 notes played - 4% cpu usage. That's dam good!

Well done Tone2

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:11 am

Thanks to everybody engaging in this little drama.
Love, Hate, Bold Advertising, Overbearing Users, Trolls, Knights, Popcorn... We had it all.
Who needs Tolkien?
Well, there were no Elves

Always fascinating to see how the way somebody interacts with the world determines the worlds reaction - which then more often than not reassures that somebody that he knows how the world is.
Works for companies just as well as for individuals.
Amazing, every time...

Cheers and Carpe Diem!

Tom

Albert.VST · Post by **Albert.VST** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:17 am

Kriminal wrote:seems to be just this in the manual, no explaination...so whats the Drive exactly? what is driven, how, and where in the audio path?

Audio path? The only audio path is from the D/A converter in your audio interface to your speakers. There's no drive from Rayblaster in there

it's all digital number crunching

For audio paths go analog

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:33 am

Cyforce wrote:
Anyway, finally found this morning a little bit time to take a look on RayBlaster, and i must, this synth is very interesting. Excellent sound quality, simple layout for usage - not to complex. This new synthesis could be a real eldorado for sounddesigner's i think.

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Which i personally really like is the extrem low cpu usage. On some patches with 4x unisio and up to 8 notes played - 4% cpu usage. That's dam good!

Well done Tone2

I agree it is very interesting and something unique... but on the cpu it is really variable... put PW to Tri Steps and it is not hard to kill the cpu with 1 or 2 notes without unison and at 44.1... other presets can be low like you say. On a couple presets, a bass note takes only a 1/4 of the cpu as a high note... sometimes when I am playing it, cpu just goes off the top cause it happens to hit a set of modulations that kill it. It is highly variable!

Are you on Mac or PC?

Cyforce · Post by **Cyforce** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:37 am

pdxindy wrote:
Cyforce wrote:
Anyway, finally found this morning a little bit time to take a look on RayBlaster, and i must, this synth is very interesting. Excellent sound quality, simple layout for usage - not to complex. This new synthesis could be a real eldorado for sounddesigner's i think.

...

Which i personally really like is the extrem low cpu usage. On some patches with 4x unisio and up to 8 notes played - 4% cpu usage. That's dam good!

Well done Tone2

I agree it is very interesting and something unique... but on the cpu it is really variable... put PW to Tri Steps and it is not hard to kill the cpu with 1 or 2 notes without unison and at 44.1... other presets can be low like you say. On a couple presets, a bass note takes only a 1/4 of the cpu as a high note... sometimes when I am playing it, cpu just goes off the top cause it happens to hit a set of modulations that kill it. It is highly variable!

Are you on Mac or PC?

PC platform, Intel i7 Quadcore

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:05 pm

Cyforce wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
Cyforce wrote:
Anyway, finally found this morning a little bit time to take a look on RayBlaster, and i must, this synth is very interesting. Excellent sound quality, simple layout for usage - not to complex. This new synthesis could be a real eldorado for sounddesigner's i think.

...

Which i personally really like is the extrem low cpu usage. On some patches with 4x unisio and up to 8 notes played - 4% cpu usage. That's dam good!

Well done Tone2

I agree it is very interesting and something unique... but on the cpu it is really variable... put PW to Tri Steps and it is not hard to kill the cpu with 1 or 2 notes without unison and at 44.1... other presets can be low like you say. On a couple presets, a bass note takes only a 1/4 of the cpu as a high note... sometimes when I am playing it, cpu just goes off the top cause it happens to hit a set of modulations that kill it. It is highly variable!

Are you on Mac or PC?
PC platform, Intel i7 Quadcore

I wonder if there are some cpu issues with the mac version?

I have an i7 quadcore Mac... I just made a piano sound, no unison, no effects... 4 high notes = 80% cpu

I also find some issues with the damp control... it often seems to have no effect over some range and then a huge effect in a short range... On one preset it had a drastic effect from 72 to 73 but from 0 to 50 was barely noticeable.

flakes2 · Post by **flakes2** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:04 pm

Everything works as expected here.
Since it's a new kind of synthesis you'll have to rethink as a sound designer and learn how to program the synthesis. This takes more time than just an hour.
You really should read the handbook. You can find your answer for your CPU question on page 41.
If you program it 'properly' it needs only very low CPU as you can see in the factory patches.
The damp seems to works technically different than with other synths. It's not a 6db slope like in other synths, it goes to 80db or something like this. That's why you must handle it more carefully.

fisherKing · Post by **fisherKing** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:33 pm

i did a demo for the soundbank; 12 instances of RB (& a little addictive drums), and my mac handled it without a hiccup (wish i could do that with, say, cyclop).

great plugin, and the new soundset is dope. am looking forward to using this one a lot...

2011 macbook pro, 8gig ram, ssd...

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:09 pm

Flakes2=Tone2?

(I notice the link to the random blog in his profile has disappeared.)

MaxSynths · Post by **MaxSynths** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:57 pm

hakey wrote:Flakes2=Tone2?

Yes, and if you check his posts you'll discover that "Tone2" owns and use almost all products from their competitors (and it seems they like them too!)

ridiculous...

rlahalla · Post by **rlahalla** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:19 pm

For Wave Designer/RayBlaster/ElectraX users, there is now a crossgrade available in the Tone2 forums, and available on the DNR website as well

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:40 pm

MaxSynths wrote:
hakey wrote:Flakes2=Tone2?
Yes, and if you check his posts you'll discover that "Tone2" owns and use almost all products from their competitors (and it seems they like them too!)

He's made 23 comments since he joined two weeks ago, and 18 of those are in this thread.

The disappearance of the random blog from his profile is suspect because it only disappeared after I'd pointed out that it's obviously not his blog (the English is too good - Flakes writes like a non-native English speaker).

Check his second ever post, a post he wrote on the day he apparently joined:

"Ahh Igro our number 1 troll from kvr is back for trolling."

New member? Yeah, right.

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