Tone2 Rayblaster: OUT NOW! (demo version available)

[JoeCat]

Flakes2=Tone2?

(I notice the link to the random blog in his profile has disappeared.)

That's some potentially devious sh*t right there!

Maybe we need a new "you must have 100 previous posts to post in a Tone2 thread" rule.

Regardless of whether you purchase their products or not, a Tone2 or Xils release always provides days, if not weeks, of free entertainment!

[hakey]

Flakes2=Tone2?

(I notice the link to the random blog in his profile has disappeared.)

That's some potentially devious sh*t right there!

On it's own, not really. But the Igro comment is dead giveaway.

Maybe we need a new "you must have 100 previous posts to post in a Tone2 thread" rule.

I'm pretty sure there's a rule governing the use of multiple accounts.

[pdxindy]

Everything works as expected here.
Since it's a new kind of synthesis you'll have to rethink as a sound designer and learn how to program the synthesis. This takes more time than just an hour.
You really should read the handbook. You can find your answer for your CPU question on page 41.
If you program it 'properly' it needs only very low CPU as you can see in the factory patches.
The damp seems to works technically different than with other synths. It's not a 6db slope like in other synths, it goes to 80db or something like this. That's why you must handle it more carefully.

It's remarkable how many assumptions you can make in one short post...

The damp control is problematic. It does not matter how carefully you handle it if you are trying to get a certain sound and at 72 it is really harsh and then the next increment to 73 is all of a sudden damped a whole lot. This means if the amount of damping one wanted was somewhere in between, then it is unobtainable. The manual on page 7 states that shift drag gives finer control, but it doesn't give a finer increment.

Here are the cpu recommendations from the manual.

1. Use the Ensemble or Chorus effect instead of the 4x unison.
2. Go to the Setup tab and reduce the number of voices used. For most sounds Poly8 will suffice.
3. Reduce release time in the volume envelope. Use the Delay effect for Pads instead.
4. Avoid very low formant frequencies since this increases the amount of calculations and
the CPU load heavily j
5. Go to the Setup tab and select a lower quality mode
6. Set Wave1/2 mix to 0. Otherwise both wave forms have to be calculated, especially if one of the waveforms isn't used or really audible that's just a waste of perfectly good CPU cycles
7. A very high pitch can also increase the CPU

The example I mentioned above had

1 - no unison or effects
2 - voices was set to poly6 but crackles started at 4 voices
3 - env time has no impact in this case
4 - Osc1 formant was set to about 146
5 - I did use high quality mode
6 - Wave 1/2 Mix was set at 0
7 - notes between c4 and c5

4 notes 80% cpu

This is not a low cpu synth... It is a highly variable cpu synth. When I am exploring sounds, I am not trying to make cpu high or low. I am adjusting parameters to create interesting sounds. in some cases the cpu is very low and in others it gets crushed.

Obviously if it were a low cpu synth you would not need to have a list of steps to keep cpu use under control...

[MaxSynths]

Flakes2=Tone2?

Yes, and if you check his posts you'll discover that "Tone2" owns and use almost all products from their competitors (and it seems they like them too!)

He's made 23 comments since he joined two weeks ago, and 18 of those are in this thread.

Ops sorry I've picked the wrong user
You are definitively right, the post with the suggestion to download a RAM utility is from Bastiaan or Markus; in their spare time they offer free technical support on public forums.

[LeVzi]

If there was a multiple account in use, the mods can check the IP's and deal with it. But I think you'll find you are just p!ssing in the wind.

[hakey]

the post with the suggestion to download a RAM utility is from Bastiaan or Markus

Whether or not it's Tone2, Flakes is a sock - possibly a recently banned user.

He'll be re-banned soon, no doubt.

[Sendy]

the post with the suggestion to download a RAM utility is from Bastiaan or Markus

Whether or not it's Tone2, Flakes is a sock - possibly a recently banned user.

He'll be re-banned soon, no doubt.

[MaxSynths]

the post with the suggestion to download a RAM utility is from Bastiaan or Markus

Whether or not it's Tone2, Flakes is a sock - possibly a recently banned user.

He'll be re-banned soon, no doubt.

I hope so. Report the results of your investigations to the mods so we can continue to talk about the topic of the thread; or in the next post do you prefer to talk about the weather? Kate & William?

[hakey]

Report the results of your investigations to the mods so we can continue to talk about the topic of the thread; or in the next post do you prefer to talk about the weather? Kate & William?

You respond to me I respond to you, etc...

[flakes2]

of course everyone who does not hate the product is from tone2 or involved to tone2,
If you dislike the product so much why don't you just move on instead of trolling and arguing here.
If we take a look at your behaviour who does know if you are not involved or sponsored from a company?

[zvenx]

So.........

I am finding, especially for Atmospheric and Effect sounds, I am loving Rayblaster.....I am of course only playing presets, and messing with knobs etc...
Some of the banks for me are yeah, so so..but for Atmospheric and Effects, some really nice stuff...... one of the upcoming banks is dedicated to Atmospheric correct?
rsp

[Amberience]

I tried this out. Is it me, or are all of the "new never heard before sounds" basically completely pants... and the good sounds are sounds you can easily get out of a subtractive synth??

And I'm no sonics snob either. I've heard really lush stuff coming out of Alchemy and Absynth for instance; otherworldly crazy tones that I love. But this just sounds really harsh, buzzy, abrasive, and unusable.

[hakey]

of course everyone who does not hate the product is from tone2 or involved to tone2

Asroturfing for Tone2? Maybe not.

But this isn't your first time at kvr, is it?

[LeVzi]

I tried this out. Is it me, or are all of the "new never heard before sounds" basically completely pants... and the good sounds are sounds you can easily get out of a subtractive synth??

And I'm no sonics snob either. I've heard really lush stuff coming out of Alchemy and Absynth for instance; otherworldly crazy tones that I love. But this just sounds really harsh, buzzy, abrasive, and unusable.

I don't agree they are harsh, buzzy, abrasive and unusable at all. Unless you were just messing about with it and experimenting. I don't know the science of this synth, but the IMS is a different way of doing things, and the scope of what you can use (Waveforms) does allow for some pretty mad experimentation as well as emulation.

But fair enough if you don't like it, it's not going to be for everyone.

[osiris]

I'm having a lot of fun making waves and loading them into the oscillators. My wishlist: Routeable oscillators. (Is that a word?) In order to get some proper atmospherics going I feel it would be good to be able to route an oscillator to an effect. Kind of like ElectraX where you have fx then Master fx. This way, you could having a booming, echo percussion underneath a lush pad, or a gate on one sound, not on the other.
It's been my experience that CPU goes nuts when envelope sustains and releases are set too high.
Some of us like buzzy and harsh....
But, I've been able to pull some right cotton wool pad sounds from this.
BTW, the new presets are daft.
(mi dos centavos)