Daw that allows Time Signatures per Track?

[memyselfandus]

I bet there is some program from 1995 that does it.

Vision and Studio Vison, from Opcode, had a mode that allowed multiple sequences to run in parallel simultaneously, each one with it's own tempo track (and therefore, with it's own time signature). If we created sequences of one track, we could have what's asked. Haven't seen anything like that in any other sequencer.

[SJ_Digriz]

turn snap off and they all do.

[whyterabbyt]

Bidule doesnt actually have tracks, but it can provide multiple tempo-sync sources of differing BPM and time signatures.

[robogone]

Can't you just change the time signature as you record each track? As long as the click track is set to the correct tempo, then you only need it to respond to the correct time signature while recording, no?

[fmr]

Can't you just change the time signature as you record each track? As long as the click track is set to the correct tempo, then you only need it to respond to the correct time signature while recording, no?

You could, but when you'd go to, let's say, the score editor, or the piano roll editor, you would end up in a complete mess.
Keeop in mind that bars/beats and time signatures, are for reading/composing music, not for listening. Once recorded, it doesn't matter what tempo/time signature it is, but if you want to read it or edit it, having it correctly distributed among bars and beats certainly helps.

[robogone]

Can't you just change the time signature as you record each track? As long as the click track is set to the correct tempo, then you only need it to respond to the correct time signature while recording, no?

You could, but when you'd go to, let's say, the score editor, or the piano roll editor, you would end up in a complete mess.

Well unless there's a need to produce a score then the score editor shouldn't really matter. As for piano roll, then the time signature could be changed so that it's correct for any track needing manual editing.

[fmr]

Can't you just change the time signature as you record each track? As long as the click track is set to the correct tempo, then you only need it to respond to the correct time signature while recording, no?

You could, but when you'd go to, let's say, the score editor, or the piano roll editor, you would end up in a complete mess.

Well unless there's a need to produce a score then the score editor shouldn't really matter. As for piano roll, then the time signature could be changed so that it's correct for any track needing manual editing.

Or you simply don't give a damn to the matter... but that's not what's being discussed here, is it?

[memyselfandus]

has to be something out there

[fmr]

has to be something out there

I think that Digital Performer has something similar to what Studio Vision had. It's called chunks. Each chunk is a sequence, and you then "mount" the chunks in a special window. If you create each sequence with one track and it's own time signature, and therefore you'll have what you are looking for.
Have to investigate if chunks may be layered, though (never tried that). I only used them one after the other (since each "chunk" is a complete sequence on it's own). Anynway, this feature is not as powerful as the sub-sequences were in Studio Vision (where they could even be triggered randomly inm real time by MIDI keys).

[ras.s]

The bastard that it is, EnergyXT can be set up to do this, here's a screenshot from 2.6..


(right click -> view for a larger image)

On the left are several sequencers on one tab and on the right is the modular view, I MSPainted them into a one image. Each sequencer can control as many instruments as one wants, I just tried this with one in each. Strangely enough, the metronome doesn't click when the sequences are running (would have to make a simple click track on each sequencer).

[Tight Snare]

has to be something out there

I think that Digital Performer has something similar to what Studio Vision had. It's called chunks. Each chunk is a sequence, and you then "mount" the chunks in a special window. If you create each sequence with one track and it's own time signature, and therefore you'll have what you are looking for. ......

Yep, you're talking about DP's Song Window where you can arrange different sequences on a 'song' time line. A good analogy might be the 'nested sequences' feature in Final Cut. I don't think you can edit the sequences themselves in the song window though (I've never used it myself), you can only position them in the timeline (including overlapping seq's with other seq's).

In DP a single project can hold as many sequences as you want and each sequence can use the same VI's and FX (if you put them in a V-Rack). This enables you to flip between different sequences within a project without having to wait while your VI's and FX reload.

So instead of using the song window you could just set up a project with different sequences for each time sig set up and one master seq where you combine everything with whatever common time sig you want (you could use 1/4 if you want). If you want different seq's with different tempos (rather than just time sigs) just bounce to audio and add the audio tracks to your master seq (with all start times at zero, like you would with stems).

Flipping between the seq's is very fast in DP (for the reasons above) as is dragging midi /audio between them.

The other option (which you could do in any DAW) is to have one sequence but enable/ disable different midi tracks which you have already programmed and use them as click tracks in different time sigs, but obviously that wouldn't give you the correct bar/ beat lines in the timeline, only the correct click. I guess it depends if you're playing or programming your tracks.

[Amberience]

The bastard that it is, EnergyXT can be set up to do this, here's a screenshot from 2.6..


(right click -> view for a larger image)

On the left are several sequencers on one tab and on the right is the modular view, I MSPainted them into a one image. Each sequencer can control as many instruments as one wants, I just tried this with one in each. Strangely enough, the metronome doesn't click when the sequences are running (would have to make a simple click track on each sequencer).

In 1.4 each item on tracks in the sequencer could have a time-sig, I'm sure of it. It was in the little inspector panel on the left hand side.

[memyselfandus]

I bet there is some program from 1995 that does it.

Vision and Studio Vison, from Opcode, had a mode that allowed multiple sequences to run in parallel simultaneously, each one with it's own tempo track (and therefore, with it's own time signature). If we created sequences of one track, we could have what's asked. Haven't seen anything like that in any other sequencer.

I'm still looking

[memyselfandus]

The bastard that it is, EnergyXT can be set up to do this, here's a screenshot from 2.6..


(right click -> view for a larger image)

On the left are several sequencers on one tab and on the right is the modular view, I MSPainted them into a one image. Each sequencer can control as many instruments as one wants, I just tried this with one in each. Strangely enough, the metronome doesn't click when the sequences are running (would have to make a simple click track on each sequencer).

In 1.4 each item on tracks in the sequencer could have a time-sig, I'm sure of it. It was in the little inspector panel on the left hand side.

Missed this from 4 years ago will have to look at it!

[HardSinc]

Ableton is the only DAW that can mix time sigs. Bitwig can't. You can trick it into doing so in a way.

Why not just get a custom metronome plug in and set it at whatever settings you like?