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digitalboytn · Post by **digitalboytn** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:27 pm

DHR53 wrote:If the new Linplug synth loads the sets I purchased from Linplug for Albino... I'll be fine with that... I respectfully submit that BT's stuff is the best there is anyway. Not sure why Rob would even care considering how many thousands of patches he's cranked out for his other stuff?

Yes Sir...BT is one of kings of synth programming...

I'm disappointed to have read Mr Papen's comments here...

Come to think of it...

Albino is rich and warm and all of the new RP synths seem a little cold and hard edged

Mmmmmmm

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:12 pm

Well, if Linplug doesn't add Albino support to their stuff then maybe somebody else will. Patches are documents and thus can be opened in any application the user wishes to. That's how all those DX-7 Sysex end up in FM synths.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:18 pm

Whats all the fuss about...Albino isnt going to stop working, just keep using it.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:22 pm

Urs wrote:Well, if Linplug doesn't add Albino support to their stuff then maybe somebody else will. Patches are documents and thus can be opened in any application the user wishes to. That's how all those DX-7 Sysex end up in FM synths.

It helps if the target synth has the same parameters. I doubt peter wants to make new synths that are compatible with something as old as albino....ppl move on.

Its also unlikely anyone else would bother, the results could get messy.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:30 pm

edit: double post

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:30 pm

Kriminal wrote:Whats all the fuss about...Albino isnt going to stop working, just keep using it.

There's already a 64 bit version so hopefully Albino will keep on working for quite some time. I think Linplug said they will support it until 2014 so maybe by then there will be a change of heart.......I love Albino 3. It's "age" has nothing to do with it's sound......

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:35 pm

Kriminal wrote:
Urs wrote:Well, if Linplug doesn't add Albino support to their stuff then maybe somebody else will. Patches are documents and thus can be opened in any application the user wishes to. That's how all those DX-7 Sysex end up in FM synths.
It helps if the target synth has the same parameters. I doubt peter wants to make new synths that are compatible with something as old as albino....ppl move on.

Its also unlikely anyone else would bother, the results could get messy.

And why shouldn't he? Albino specs are not "old" (in fact, they seem quite up to date to me). And in what regards the patches, is as Urs says - nothing prevents a programmer to build a synth that can read the patches created for another synth - look at what happened even with sample libraries. In those days, everything was "Akai S1000 compatible". Then everything was "SF2 compatible". Now everything is "Kontakt compatible". If programmers do bother to create samplers that can read patches cretaeed for other samplers, why shouldn't someone create a synth that can read patches for another synth that happens to be, at least in part, his, and that he is forced to discontinue?

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:36 pm

Kriminal wrote:Whats all the fuss about...Albino isnt going to stop working, just keep using it.

It's easy to break compatibility (specially in Apple world). Just change the OS, and that's it.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:51 pm

fmr wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Whats all the fuss about...Albino isnt going to stop working, just keep using it.
It's easy to break compatibility (specially in Apple world). Just change the OS, and that's it.

That's why I can't understand why anybody would buy a Mac or any developer would support them........

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:53 pm

fmr wrote: nothing prevents a programmer to build a synth that can read the patches created for another synth

Yes but will the filters be the same? The oscillators? Etc Etc? Reading a patch and perfectly emulating a sound are two different thing.....an excellent example being the aforementioned DX-7......

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:54 pm

Teksonik wrote:
fmr wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Whats all the fuss about...Albino isnt going to stop working, just keep using it.
It's easy to break compatibility (specially in Apple world). Just change the OS, and that's it.
That's why I can't understand why anybody would buy a Mac or any developer would support them........

Touché!

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:58 pm

Teksonik wrote:
fmr wrote: nothing prevents a programmer to build a synth that can read the patches created for another synth
Yes but will the filters be the same? The oscillators? Etc Etc? Reading a patch and perfectly emulating a sound are two different thing.....an excellent example being the aforementioned DX-7......

AFAIK, nothing prevents Peter of using code that he owns the rights to. And he could even write new filters and oscillators that had the ability to emulate (reads: behave) like the old ones, if needed (it should be easy for him, since he wrote the previous ones

).
NI FM synths do a great job at reading the DX7 patches. They may not be 100% accurate, but perhaps 99,5% (that would be enough for me).

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:02 pm

The end of Albino?

^ An Albino Cat, worried about all this talk.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:06 pm

fmr wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
Urs wrote:Well, if Linplug doesn't add Albino support to their stuff then maybe somebody else will. Patches are documents and thus can be opened in any application the user wishes to. That's how all those DX-7 Sysex end up in FM synths.
It helps if the target synth has the same parameters. I doubt peter wants to make new synths that are compatible with something as old as albino....ppl move on.

Its also unlikely anyone else would bother, the results could get messy.
And why shouldn't he? Albino specs are not "old" (in fact, they seem quite up to date to me). And in what regards the patches, is as Urs says - nothing prevents a programmer to build a synth that can read the patches created for another synth - look at what happened even with sample libraries. In those days, everything was "Akai S1000 compatible". Then everything was "SF2 compatible". Now everything is "Kontakt compatible". If programmers do bother to create samplers that can read patches cretaeed for other samplers, why shouldn't someone create a synth that can read patches for another synth that happens to be, at least in part, his, and that he is forced to discontinue?

Albino isnt going to stop working right now, so why would anyone build a copy of it just to read some patches? Aside from possible legal issues, unless you can code an exact copy, the patches wont sound the same. You would be better off finding a similar synth and trying to copy your fav patches using your ears.

as for reading samples etc, its not even close to being relevant.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:07 pm

fmr wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Whats all the fuss about...Albino isnt going to stop working, just keep using it.
It's easy to break compatibility (specially in Apple world). Just change the OS, and that's it.

it works right now on the newest OS's, so any new computer you have is more than capable of running it for a good few years to come. By that time im sure most ppl will have moved on to the next big thing...