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DJMaytag wrote:
billcarroll wrote:FYI, http://www.jrrshop.com has Element for $84.15 (extra discount applied when added to cart). And at that price I had to buy it :)
Wish I had known about this. I could have saved $15 on Element plus $30 on the L3-16 that I'd like to buy later this month while it's on sale. Is JRRShop continuing this discount very long?
I'd guess it will run on element as long as it is at the intro price of $99, but you better ask jrrshop just to be sure :)

Is waves putting L3-16 on sale later this month?

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cryophonik wrote:
Wormhelmet wrote:On a side note, what's up with all the Jordan Rudess haters?
I don't think anybody hates him, but it's hard not to poke fun at a guy who endorses seemingly everything under the sun, and makes a caricature of himself doing so.
;)

The "mr wizard" thing is just kinda lending itself.

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Wavesuniverse.com has the "Element" for $80.99

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4damind wrote:Wavesuniverse.com has the "Element" for $80.99
Is that price including VAT? i have checked at Waves shop directly and 99$ seems to be the final price, also here in Germany.


Ingo
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Yeah, it looks a bit like and old plugin, but i don't care!Everything is clear on the GUI and i personally like the demos!I think i'm going to give it a try!

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Impulslogik wrote:For all you critics (I'm one of them) and for all who do not want to get through the account and licensing process for the demo!!! I found that video on youtube:



Quite interesting i am a bit lured...but 99 bucks is too expensive.

That video is kinda comical... He says, it sounds really analog... as he is pushing up the highs with the eq and says see it really affects the sound... hehe

It wasn't very informative... would be nice to show what the env shape control does... What are the mod sources and targets... a quick run through the filter types... show osc sync, sine mod etc...

Is there a way to set an LFO to global or per voice?
There appears to be no LFO delay but sometimes you can do that in a mod matrix
Can the arp be used as a mod source? also if it is not being used as an arp?

The FX section is rather basic. Reverb is 1 control. Is that mix? If so then there is no reverb time control. Same with chorus.

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Ingonator wrote:
4damind wrote:Wavesuniverse.com has the "Element" for $80.99
Is that price including VAT? i have checked at Waves shop directly and 99$ seems to be the final price, also here in Germany.
Ingo
It's the final price, they have no additional VAT because it's electronic delivery and the company is outside the EU (Afaik they are based in Florida/US).

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I can't find any info on the plugin formats for Element, but I assume that it's VST2/3, AU, and RTAS? I also assume that it's not available in AAX yet. For those of you who have it already, can you confirm this?
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billcarroll wrote:Is waves putting L3-16 on sale later this month?
Waves has the L3-16 bundle on sale for $199, which means it's $169 at JRRShop.com in the cart.

Looks like wavesuniverse.com has the L3-16 for $152.99. Nice!

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cryophonik wrote:I can't find any info on the plugin formats for Element, but I assume that it's VST2/3, AU, and RTAS? I also assume that it's not available in AAX yet. For those of you who have it already, can you confirm this?
I don't see anything like "Element.aaxplugin" in "/Library/Application Support/Avid/Audio"

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billcarroll wrote:
cryophonik wrote:I can't find any info on the plugin formats for Element, but I assume that it's VST2/3, AU, and RTAS? I also assume that it's not available in AAX yet. For those of you who have it already, can you confirm this?
I don't see anything like "Element.aaxplugin" in "/Library/Application Support/Avid/Audio"
Thanks Bill! There is an RTAS version, though, right?
Logic Pro | LUNA Pro | OB-X8 | Prophet 6 | OB-6 | Rev2 | TEO-5 | Pro 3 | SE-1X | Minitaur | Deepmind 12D | Integra-7 | TR-1000 | Analog RYTM mk2 | Digitakt 2 | TD-3 MO | TD-3 | Maschine+

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cryophonik wrote:
billcarroll wrote:
cryophonik wrote:I can't find any info on the plugin formats for Element, but I assume that it's VST2/3, AU, and RTAS? I also assume that it's not available in AAX yet. For those of you who have it already, can you confirm this?
I don't see anything like "Element.aaxplugin" in "/Library/Application Support/Avid/Audio"
Thanks Bill! There is an RTAS version, though, right?
Yes. I tested it and it's working in Pro Tools 10

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Tried the demo for more than an hour and so far i really like it.

The basic sound, GUI and features are fitting my own needs and the current price is OK too. I also like many of the presets. Once you are registered even the copy protection and installation seem to look quite OK.

The CPU use could be quite low but with some presets, especially pad sounds, it could be high. Anyway all presets seem to be usable on my Core2 Quad Q6600 CPU (highest use around 30-40% for one core with 6 notes played). With the "HD" switch off CPU use is aroun the half. I guess this switch corresponds to higher oversampling.

BTW currently i am not judging the sound in terms of emulation or how analog it sounds but to my ears it sounds good. The EQ seems to be simple but even with modest use you could easily "beef up" the basic sound.

It'S also nice that the demo is fully functional for 7 days so enough time to test it i guess.

The only bad things i found so far is that there are no additional controls for the Unison (e.g. voices, spread) and maybe the patch browser could be improved.
Also a waveform selection for the SubOsc would be nice (maybe just 2 or 3 waveforms).


Ingo
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Ingo Weidner
Win 10 Home 64-bit / mobile i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz / 16GB RAM //
Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 / Pro Tools Ultimate 2021 // NI Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1

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billcarroll wrote:
Yes. I tested it and it's working in Pro Tools 10
Awesome - thanks again! :tu:
Logic Pro | LUNA Pro | OB-X8 | Prophet 6 | OB-6 | Rev2 | TEO-5 | Pro 3 | SE-1X | Minitaur | Deepmind 12D | Integra-7 | TR-1000 | Analog RYTM mk2 | Digitakt 2 | TD-3 MO | TD-3 | Maschine+

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Ingonator wrote:The only bad things i found so far is that there are no additional controls for the Unison (e.g. voices, spread) and maybe the patch browser could be improved. Also a waveform selection for the SubOsc would be nice (maybe just 2 or 3 waveforms).Ingo
Oh boy! The aged Synth1 made it quite better.

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