KVR Audio

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:32 pm

Amberience wrote:Hey Hink,

I am *massively* interested in hearing some clips from that Jet City ISO cab you have. Got any hard-rock 'heavy' rhythm stuff I can hear?

I can...give me a day or 10

...I have some from before but not after

If you like Andy send me some dry guitar parts and I'll run it through my re-amper set as you like it

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:35 pm

nobody though I was funny

Oh well, sorry guys, carry on.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:21 am

alteregoxxx wrote: So, as i have already said, it's not a "tube thing"; the feel, the "thump", you perceive has a lot to do with the "loudness" involved...play your tube amp in a room and listen to that beautiful,big sound, than try to mic it and recording it, then listen to the recording: it will be a loooooooooooooooot different from the "live" sound....small, so small compared to live sound...no?
Mic'ed amp sound is a TOTALLY different thing than "live" amp sound...don't get fooled ignoring this fact...

I bring this up all the time. You're totally right. A lot of people don't understand that these products only get as close as an approximation of a recording of a tube amp. This, of course, can be good, but as far as getting exactly the experience of standing next to a tube amp... fat chance. I think the Line6 HD500/DT50 combo gets around this by going a hybrid approach but recordings of the direct out from this combo don't do that much for me. Another approach I thought would be great would be the real tube amp into the Two Notes Torpedo cab simulator. Again, closer than software, not exact, but still hardware. In the end I passed on both of these approaches because of cost (real amp/Torpedo) or volume concerns (Line6 HD500/DT25).

So for me the Kemper gets it as close to "natural" as I need. The most "natural" software amp sims I thought are Amplitube and S-Gear.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:29 am

TSE X50 is real enough for me:
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/back ... 505-a.html
Sure there is a tiny difference, but i call bullshit on anyone who would claim that they would be able to tell that it is not a real amp when listening to it without hearing the real thing for comparison.

mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:57 am

E is nice. i like it.

metalifuxx · Post by **metalifuxx** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:23 pm

Mutant wrote:TSE X50 is real enough for me:
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/back ... 505-a.html
Sure there is a tiny difference, but i call bullshit on anyone who would claim that they would be able to tell that it is not a real amp when listening to it without hearing the real thing for comparison.

+1 that is my new favorite amp sim right now. Anything heavy or crunchy/distorted is getting the X50 used on it. It has got a nice chunky chug to it while not getting muddy. And you don't even need to crank the gain much past 5. Just use the right IR/cab sim after and it sounds as good or better than any of the higher gain commercial offerings. That means IK Multimedia better step their game up

Eleventh · Post by **Eleventh** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:23 pm

Mutant wrote:TSE X50 is real enough for me:
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/back ... 505-a.html
Sure there is a tiny difference, but i call bullshit on anyone who would claim that they would be able to tell that it is not a real amp when listening to it without hearing the real thing for comparison.

The funny thing is that when I compare the chuggy parts RMS normalized, the x50 one actually sounds better than the real thing

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:37 pm

Where is the link to this? Is this another one of those synth edit/non x64 plugs??

Amon1973 · Post by **Amon1973** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:06 pm

http://www.tseaudio.com/software.html

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:11 pm

I've been trying to connect and it just keeps spinning.

Amon1973 · Post by **Amon1973** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:13 pm

Strange, I just downloaded the updated version.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:06 pm

page not found. I'll try turning off adblock temp.....

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:08 pm

Nope

Has to be a reason. I'll try IE

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:09 pm

Nope.

Amon1973 · Post by **Amon1973** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:28 pm

Must be a temporary local issue. In any case, no SE and x64

Having fun and comparing "realism" of amp sims