Having fun and comparing "realism" of amp sims

[eidenk]

AXP Softamp GT

[Amberience]

Hey Hink,

I am *massively* interested in hearing some clips from that Jet City ISO cab you have. Got any hard-rock 'heavy' rhythm stuff I can hear?

I can...give me a day or 10 ...I have some from before but not after

If you like Andy send me some dry guitar parts and I'll run it through my re-amper set as you like it

That would be epic! Challenge accepted

[metalifuxx]

I am going to guess A is Amplitube, and C is Simulanalog Fender Twin.

So the answers are:

A= IK Amplitube American Vintage D
B= LeXTAC
C= SimulAnalog Fender Twin
D= TSE X50
E= Vandal Magix



I prefer A,E,C,D,B in this order

Do I get a prize

I also liked A,C, and then E

[ariajazz]

Not a scientific test here...only me having fun playing the wonderful Castelorizon fromn David Gilmour and trying to make the best sound from some of the amp sims i have: LeXTAC, IK Amplitube American Vintage D, TSE X50, SimulAnalog Fender Twin.
Only the wonderful TSE X47 "rodent" pedal in front of the amps, a little of reverb (Voxengo OldSchoolVerb) and delay (Cockos Readelay), nothing more.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/41836449/Caste ... mpli_A.mp3

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/41836449/Caste ... mpli_B.mp3

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/41836449/Caste ... mpli_C.mp3

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/41836449/Caste ... mpli_D.mp3

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/41836449/Caste ... mpli_E.mp3

Which do you think sounds more "organic", "realistic", so to speak, A,B,C or D?
Which you like more? Who do you think is is who?



Edit: Added another amp sim, the "E" letter

I DO LIKE THE "A" ONE

[ariajazz]

So, as i have already said, it's not a "tube thing"; the feel, the "thump", you perceive has a lot to do with the "loudness" involved...play your tube amp in a room and listen to that beautiful,big sound, than try to mic it and recording it, then listen to the recording: it will be a loooooooooooooooot different from the "live" sound....small, so small compared to live sound...no?
Mic'ed amp sound is a TOTALLY different thing than "live" amp sound...don't get fooled ignoring this fact...

I bring this up all the time. You're totally right. A lot of people don't understand that these products only get as close as an approximation of a recording of a tube amp. This, of course, can be good, but as far as getting exactly the experience of standing next to a tube amp... fat chance. I think the Line6 HD500/DT50 combo gets around this by going a hybrid approach but recordings of the direct out from this combo don't do that much for me. Another approach I thought would be great would be the real tube amp into the Two Notes Torpedo cab simulator. Again, closer than software, not exact, but still hardware. In the end I passed on both of these approaches because of cost (real amp/Torpedo) or volume concerns (Line6 HD500/DT25).

So for me the Kemper gets it as close to "natural" as I need. The most "natural" software amp sims I thought are Amplitube and S-Gear.

I do play with Amplitube 3 through two 100 watt keyboard amps and believe me it sounds awsome, they move air and makes you feel you're in front of real guitar amps.

[ariajazz]

So, as i have already said, it's not a "tube thing"; the feel, the "thump", you perceive has a lot to do with the "loudness" involved...play your tube amp in a room and listen to that beautiful,big sound, than try to mic it and recording it, then listen to the recording: it will be a loooooooooooooooot different from the "live" sound....small, so small compared to live sound...no?
Mic'ed amp sound is a TOTALLY different thing than "live" amp sound...don't get fooled ignoring this fact...

I bring this up all the time. You're totally right. A lot of people don't understand that these products only get as close as an approximation of a recording of a tube amp. This, of course, can be good, but as far as getting exactly the experience of standing next to a tube amp... fat chance. I think the Line6 HD500/DT50 combo gets around this by going a hybrid approach but recordings of the direct out from this combo don't do that much for me. Another approach I thought would be great would be the real tube amp into the Two Notes Torpedo cab simulator. Again, closer than software, not exact, but still hardware. In the end I passed on both of these approaches because of cost (real amp/Torpedo) or volume concerns (Line6 HD500/DT25).

So for me the Kemper gets it as close to "natural" as I need. The most "natural" software amp sims I thought are Amplitube and S-Gear.

I do play with Amplitube 3 through two 100 watt keyboard amps and believe me it sounds awsome, they move air and makes you feel you're in front of real guitar amps. I gig with this rig and the results are excellent