Oh boy, another VA synth. This time from Waves!

[Kriminal]

I think it has to do with Juno word trademarked as international brand. I admit the © and ™ thing is very complex.

i don't think the name "Juno" is copyrighted, there is even a movie with that name. It gets problematic if you use the name for a synth and even more if it is an emulation of the real thing.
There is also a brand called Jupiter that produces e.g. Trumpets. They evene use "JP" in their model names:
http://www.thomann.de/de/jupiter_trompeten.html



Ingo

You really have no idea do you...make a synth called juno and see what happens

Better still, start a computer company called apple, after all, its a fruit, you cant copyright a fruit!

Actually you can and Apple computers got into some serious trouble with Apple Records over using the name Apple.

...but not enought to stop them using the name. Both unrelated businesses, so no problem

No..when they started selling music Apple Records went after them. Until that point, there was an agreement that Apple could use the name as long as they did not get involved in music. Apple Computers broke that promise with iTunes.. Google itbif you want to know more.

Partly true. As long as apple inc didnt supply music in a physical format they werent breaking any conditions. They didnt and apple corp lost the case.

[Aural Chaos]

This thread contains a whole sprectrum of stoopid...

[Kriminal]

This thread contains a whole sprectrum of stoopid...

Along with some terrible spelling

[adamszabo]

I dont know why everyone is acting like little girls, who cares if its called element and there is already a plugin called element? There are only so many "normal" words you can name a product, and if they are all used up, what shoudl we do? We cant release any more synths because all the names are used? Should we then start using numbers instead of words?

I think there are different depths to this problem. Obviously you are not going to create a vst called Virus, because Access has that synth and its their only and primary product. You wouldnt call a synth JP-8080 because of the numbers, indicating something from the companys previous line of synths.

In this case, Element does not have so much weight, since its a simple word, and the companies have more products beside this. So in this case it would be like if different music artists use the same title for their track. Or the same title of movies (type in Dracula on imdb).
So basically its two products: Waves Element and xoxos Element. Problem solved.

[Kriminal]

In this case, Element does not have so much weight, since its a simple word, and the companies have more products beside this. So in this case it would be like if different music artists use the same title for their track. Or the same title of movies (type in Dracula on imdb).

Not even close to being relevant

[adamszabo]

Not even close to being relevant

Why not? Isnt a movie or a song a product just like software?

[Aural Chaos]

This thread contains a whole sprectrum of stoopid...

Along with some terrible spelling

Sorry, I left out the 3rd 'o' in "stooopid"....

[hibidy]

wow, this is like a train with no tracks!

[Shabdahbriah]

wow, this is like a train with no tracks!

"Virtual Voltage" trains don't require tracks.

[Aural Chaos]

This is my new "go to" thread!

[Sendy]

That wascally wirtual woltage!

[4damind]

@Adam, what is your opinion about this synth?

[Shabdahbriah]

That wascally wirtual woltage!

[Ingonator]

So... I tried it. Yeah, the download/authorization is a bit of a pain, but not too bad. No issues.

I like it. Much better sounding, IMO, than Saurus. Reminds me a bit of UltraAnalog, but it's got the mod matrix I always wished for... nothing new in terms of "virtual analog" sound though, but a solid low resource VA instrument IMO. A decent number off cool features to keep things interesting but still simple enough to work quickly in. I'm not sure why they skimped on the effect controls, but others have pointed that out. Maybe a later update? Definitely worth the $70 it's being sold at... though with a pretty full instrument folder and a number of hardware synths I may pass anyway. Nice showing though. I'd recommend it to anyone looking for something inexpensive but good.

I want to amend my post. I went back to it today... to find an error telling me I had no license. The machine was now off line... does that mean I have to be on line to use it? No go. A bit later in my session after Live rejected the plug, it crashed twice with some complaints about that microsoft file thing which it's installer updated. This is super rare especially considereing what I was doing. Uninstalled and not recommended.

No problems with Live here so far. Both with the demo and later with the full license after many hours of using it. Got the license on an USB flash drive and it works on my desktop PC and my notebook.
Later when i i use my notebook again i'll try to turn off WLAN to see what happens without internet. AFAIK it should also work without.

Only problems i found and reported are that the Element plugin does not run in certain hosts like e.g. Orion 8.5 demo and EnergyXT 2.6.

Just checked with my notebook and with internet turned off. Still no problems with Element in Ableton Live 8. As already mentioned the license was moved to the notebook using an USB flash drive.


Ingo

[hibidy]

This thread is like a train station w/o trains.