KVR Audio

rockstar_not · Post by **rockstar_not** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:06 pm

Gotta show love for about the only delay that's ever satisfied me - Interruptor.ch's Bionic Delay.

I love the warped tape emulation in that one. I have a few more, but I always go back to that one. Try it and see what you think.

A.M. Gold · Post by **A.M. Gold** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:11 am

This one (second from top) is good and free, with a versatile and easy to use interface:

http://www.mgaudio.de/modules/main.php?content=products

AudioGuy720 · Post by **AudioGuy720** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:20 am

whyterabbyt wrote:
Caine123 wrote:
AudioGuy720 wrote:
dalor wrote:
Kaboom75 wrote:Tried them all Soundtoys Echoboy beats all by miles.
+1!
Echoboy is more than just one echo, it includes a whole range of classic echo effects like Roland Space Echo, TelRay, DM2, Echoplex, Memory Man and many more.

Add me to the EchoBoy fan club. It just sounds "right". It's versatile as hell and it even has a nice little distortion feature.
when they will get rid of ilok2 i will check it out!
they dont use ilok2, they use the original ilok.

They use the ilok 2 now. I think it started with version 4.1.7

Mister Natural · Post by **Mister Natural** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:05 am

I'm crazy about the delays native to LIVE8. I can real wacky, real fast there.
When I want some straight Echo-Boy for my guitar; TAL Dub3 is it

@midnight · Post by **@midnight** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:27 am

audiosabre wrote:
@midnight wrote:fabfilter's filter code generates aliasing under certain circumstances. also, heavy modulation of the parameters under certain circumstances.
FWIW, I can back you up on this. Any fabfilter plugin with a filter sounds significantly better @ 96k than it does at 44.1k. Especially when you're modulating something with fairly high resonance.

I encourage anyone who doubts this fact to do their own tests. I'm not part of the aliasing police, but in this case the plug (timeless 2) does sound better @ higher samplerates. I was pretty disappointed to discover this.

If anyone cares to start a thread on fabfilter's forum, I'll back you up. They have implemented one of my feature requests before, so they're pretty cool in this respect.

Cheers

Well you can pretty much call me the aliasing police I guess, because I prefer it to not be in my mixes!

Actually the reason I originally discovered aliasing and it's presence in my mixes is because of my affinity for creepy suspended high notes, like you find in cheesy horror movie soundtracks, I love that stuff, and those high register notes will bring out aliasing in a BAD way, it will be clearly audible even in a dense mix.

I believe one of the solutions Fabfilter could implement, and in fact they have already started to add it on the new plugins, is by adding HQ/Oversampling switches to their older plugins that don't have, but which desperately need for those of us still working at 44.1khz (I'm NOT switching to 96khz, my 4ghz quad-core Intel can handle it, but my hard drives can't!).

If they went back and added HQ switches to Timeless 2, Volcano 2, and also the Pro-C compressor, their plugins would seriously give Soundtoys a run for their money. (Soundtoys use internal oversampling.)

Infact I am scratching my head trying to figure out WHY they haven't implemented HQ modes on those plugins, as they did on Saturn, Pro-L, Pro-DS, hell, even their new Noise Gate has oversampling options. Why not the filter and compressor plugins? And the synth plugins?

Can you think of a good reason why they haven't done this? I can't.

audiosabre · Post by **audiosabre** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:22 am

Here is a thread a fellow KVR member started @ fabfilter's forum...

I have already replied

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:22 pm

An "all in one" delay?

This one below, as yet not released, is definitely 'all in one' and them some! (it has some very advanced features).

A pitched, cascading delay:
www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/delay_cascades.mp3

Multi-modulation delay. First the dry sound then the wet sound. (The reverb ambiance is also part of this plugin):
www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/delay-mod.mp3

brok landers · Post by **brok landers** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:11 pm

A.M. Gold wrote:This one (second from top) is good and free, with a versatile and easy to use interface:

http://www.mgaudio.de/modules/main.php?content=products

in fact another one i use a lot, still, after all that time (it's quite old)... it's actually a shame that the developer never finished it...

BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:38 pm

himalaya wrote:This one below, as yet not released, is definitely 'all in one' and them some! (it has some very advanced features).

Presumably, you left any details (developer, screenshot etc) out because it is not yet to be revealed?

I am intrigued and rather curious though!

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:51 pm

re: aliasing in older Fabfilter plugs... Frederik replied today:

Hi all,

We're certainly aware of an aliasing problem with our 'creative' filters in Volcano, Timeless and Twin. This is primarily audible if you use the high-pass filters: the low-pass filters typically filter away their own aliasing, unless you use very high resonance: but even then the distortion usually hides the aliasing.

In addition, Twin might also introduce some aliasing when you use oscillator sync or ring modulation.

All of these problems can be solved with internal oversampling, which is precisely what we've done in Saturn (the HQ mode). We're definitely planning to add this to our other Creative plug-ins in a future update!

Most of our Pro plug-ins already have a linear-phase oversampling feature, except for Pro-C: we're planning to solve this in an upcoming new version as well. However, as bitflipper already mentioned, currently Pro-C certainly doesn't suffer from severe aliasing: the effect will be very subtle, but we still want to add the option of oversampling here too to be able to achieve the highest possible sound quality.

Cheers,
Frederik (FabFilter) - Jan 14, 2013

good news!

BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:00 pm

Yup, good guys.

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:42 am

BDeep wrote:
himalaya wrote:This one below, as yet not released, is definitely 'all in one' and them some! (it has some very advanced features).
Presumably, you left any details (developer, screenshot etc) out because it is not yet to be revealed?
I am intrigued and rather curious though!

If you are curious then here are three more audio examples( no screenshots or names I'm affraid

).

This one shows three different delay models. Just by dialing each one a different sound is obtained. First the dry sound then the wet examples (clean delay, vintage delay and tape delay <-- these last two modes need a better demo as they provide some nice options which are not used in the demo below):

3 delay models/modes

Some glitch like stuff on percussion. The 'glitchiness' is all done by modulating the delay time, feedback and the filters. Dry first followed by wet example:

Perc mod glitch delay

This one uses the vintage mode which can give a very full saturated sound. Dry then wet:
Vintage synth and vintage saturated delay

zentatonic · Post by **zentatonic** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:21 am

Sounds awesome himalaya. When's this plug coming?

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:09 am

Thanks.
I'm afraid I don't have any info relating to its release. I'd hope, very soon. It works on my system and kicks a**.

ostfront · Post by **ostfront** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:15 am

himalaya wrote:Thanks.
I'm afraid I don't have any info relating to its release. I'd hope, very soon. It works on my system and kicks a**.

Is it coded or made in SynthEdit?

your way to go Delay? all in one and easy understandable?