What is your preferred way of transferring samples on iOS?
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- KVRist
- 185 posts since 18 Jan, 2011 from Brisbane, Australia
I've been thinking again about releasing Caustic on iOS, but I always get stuck on the problem of getting to your files.
On Android and Playbook, this is easy, there's a common place where apps can store files, outside of the secured portion of the device. Connecting your device via USB gives you access to this space as a standard mass storage device. (USB drive)
So, looking at my options on iOS and what others have done, it seems like there's a few possible solution, each with their pros and cons.
- Email: Easy to understand, but sending many files at different times and finding them later can become messy.
- Dropbox/Box/Drive/etc.: Easy to integrate as part of the app, limited space and requires a DB account. Also much slower than other methods for transfer rate.
- Built-in http/ftp server: Less user friendly, as users have to load a browser and manually type in a bunch of numbers. Can apps really access downloaded files?
- Custom desktop app: Easier to make it do exactly what you want, but requires installing software and might not work on all OSes.
What am I missing? What's your favorite way and why?
Thanks
-Rej
On Android and Playbook, this is easy, there's a common place where apps can store files, outside of the secured portion of the device. Connecting your device via USB gives you access to this space as a standard mass storage device. (USB drive)
So, looking at my options on iOS and what others have done, it seems like there's a few possible solution, each with their pros and cons.
- Email: Easy to understand, but sending many files at different times and finding them later can become messy.
- Dropbox/Box/Drive/etc.: Easy to integrate as part of the app, limited space and requires a DB account. Also much slower than other methods for transfer rate.
- Built-in http/ftp server: Less user friendly, as users have to load a browser and manually type in a bunch of numbers. Can apps really access downloaded files?
- Custom desktop app: Easier to make it do exactly what you want, but requires installing software and might not work on all OSes.
What am I missing? What's your favorite way and why?
Thanks
-Rej
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- KVRian
- 1107 posts since 31 Oct, 2002 from the high desert
iTunes seems the most obvious way, but possibly the most hated.
Personally, I prefer the cloud based solutions,like Soundcloud, or email.
Personally, I prefer the cloud based solutions,like Soundcloud, or email.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 185 posts since 18 Jan, 2011 from Brisbane, Australia
Ah, yes sorry I forgot about iTunes. I'm actually not that familiar with iTunes and it seems you either love it or hate it but what's the issue with dealing with app files? Do all your samples get jumbled up into your MP3s and show up in your playlists or is there a way to segregate?Aural Chaos wrote:iTunes seems the most obvious way, but possibly the most hated.
Personally, I prefer the cloud based solutions,like Soundcloud, or email.
- KVRAF
- 2547 posts since 15 Jan, 2013 from L'Écosse
Auria does it in an elegant way via iTunes IMHO. You can copy a zip file complete with folders and subfolders of samples to the Auria workspace in iTunes and it will uncompress it automatically on my iPad (after iTunes copies it over), preserving the folder heirarchy. I seldom go a folder or two deep, but it's a brilliant way to keep my samples organized. In Auria I just import audio and then locate the folder with the samples that I want.
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- KVRian
- 1107 posts since 31 Oct, 2002 from the high desert
It is split up by app in iTunes, so no-things don't get jumbled together. You specifically move certain files to a certain app.
Or, many apps can just use your music library also, so in that case you would be mingling all the different audio files.
But, other than for DJ type apps, the first way is preferable, IMO.
Or, many apps can just use your music library also, so in that case you would be mingling all the different audio files.
But, other than for DJ type apps, the first way is preferable, IMO.
- KVRAF
- 7169 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
I use Dropbox type apps and the built-in FTP servers most, but I also really like using Audioshare app a lot too. I also really like it when apps have the open-in feature too. Audiobus and Audiocopy/Audiopaste are essentials too.SingleCell wrote:I've been thinking again about releasing Caustic on iOS, but I always get stuck on the problem of getting to your files.
On Android and Playbook, this is easy, there's a common place where apps can store files, outside of the secured portion of the device. Connecting your device via USB gives you access to this space as a standard mass storage device. (USB drive)
So, looking at my options on iOS and what others have done, it seems like there's a few possible solution, each with their pros and cons.
- Email: Easy to understand, but sending many files at different times and finding them later can become messy.
- Dropbox/Box/Drive/etc.: Easy to integrate as part of the app, limited space and requires a DB account. Also much slower than other methods for transfer rate.
- Built-in http/ftp server: Less user friendly, as users have to load a browser and manually type in a bunch of numbers. Can apps really access downloaded files?
- Custom desktop app: Easier to make it do exactly what you want, but requires installing software and might not work on all OSes.
What am I missing? What's your favorite way and why?
Thanks
-Rej
--Sean
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(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRian
- 1107 posts since 31 Oct, 2002 from the high desert
Audioshare is great, though it's kind of annoying to have to plunk down another 5$ as a way to get around the major PITA of iOS.
Good point about copy/paste- that is important too.
Good point about copy/paste- that is important too.
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- KVRist
- 279 posts since 18 Oct, 2011
I would say, implement all the features you can so anyone can choose his favorite: Dropbox, iTunes file sharing, email, open in..., the obvious AudioCopy/Paste, Soundcloud, ftp server, etc... 
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- KVRian
- 1336 posts since 21 Dec, 2004
I wish we could get a sample repository that was universal for apps. I hate iTunes on my PC and haven't used it since I got cloud services over a year ago. I thought I would be free of it, but now more apps are becoming iTunes sharing apps. I use FTP to transfer files. I think I must do the iTunes thing wrong anyway when I did it. I just recall dropping a ton of samples in iTunes on my PC and they mixed right in with my song lists. Yuck. I just want organized samples in a flippin folder that I can access from several apps. It's the most simplistic concept and to not have it available on the ipad/iphone without jailbreaking it is just dumb. All apps could have access to an "Audio Samples" folder and be able to navigate it.
I hate that Apple takes stubborn concepts and publishes them in the iOS releases just to prove they don't have to listen to any customers. Doesn't have to be a full file browser, just one universal directory for recorded files or samples that you could make sub folders in and navigate in your app.
I hate that Apple takes stubborn concepts and publishes them in the iOS releases just to prove they don't have to listen to any customers. Doesn't have to be a full file browser, just one universal directory for recorded files or samples that you could make sub folders in and navigate in your app.
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- KVRAF
- 4420 posts since 7 Nov, 2005 from Florida
I hate the IOS filing system (or lack of it), but if I had to choose, the Dropbox integration is my favorite.
Mike
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- KVRAF
- 7169 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
It would be nice to have a OS provided sample repository, but non-natively it already exists with the audioshare app. Check it out--it's really handy. Not free, but handy none the less.Wormhelmet wrote:I wish we could get a sample repository that was universal for apps. I hate iTunes on my PC and haven't used it since I got cloud services over a year ago. I thought I would be free of it, but now more apps are becoming iTunes sharing apps. I use FTP to transfer files. I think I must do the iTunes thing wrong anyway when I did it. I just recall dropping a ton of samples in iTunes on my PC and they mixed right in with my song lists. Yuck. I just want organized samples in a flippin folder that I can access from several apps. It's the most simplistic concept and to not have it available on the ipad/iphone without jailbreaking it is just dumb. All apps could have access to an "Audio Samples" folder and be able to navigate it.
I hate that Apple takes stubborn concepts and publishes them in the iOS releases just to prove they don't have to listen to any customers. Doesn't have to be a full file browser, just one universal directory for recorded files or samples that you could make sub folders in and navigate in your app.
--Sean
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- 7169 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
yeah, Dropbox is the one I use the most too. It sucks though, when you need something and you aren't near a WiFi connection. For me, that's where audioshare and ifiles comes in.Karmacomposer wrote:I hate the IOS filing system (or lack of it), but if I had to choose, the Dropbox integration is my favorite.
Mike
--Sean
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRian
- 631 posts since 19 Sep, 2012
Im a fan of open in, especially since someone demonstrated how to get contents of e-mails from the trash if you weren't near wifi to send them.
Personally if I'm not near wifi then iTunes , I file etc are useless as I'm not near the mac either.
Personally if I'm not near wifi then iTunes , I file etc are useless as I'm not near the mac either.
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- KVRist
- 56 posts since 23 Jan, 2008 from London
There is a free program for mac/win called ifunbox in which you can drag and drop files (in folders preserving the heierachy aswell) into the relavent app's directory on your iphone/ipad, and it will upload it streight to where you need it....it is quick and a hell of alot quicker and easier than the pain that is itunes....the link is as follows:-
http://www.i-funbox.com/
http://www.i-funbox.com/