DIY synths - anyone experienced in this?
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Sound Mechanics Sound Mechanics https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=54454
- KVRAF
- 1663 posts since 10 Jan, 2005 from UK
Hi,
I was wondering how long it would take to build up enough knowledge in electronics to build something like this:
http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/anal ... page1.html#
I was wondering how long it would take to build up enough knowledge in electronics to build something like this:
http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/anal ... page1.html#
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
we have a diy forum here at kvr, do you want this moved there?
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
- addled muppet weed
- 111286 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
can you solder?
ever built a lego or meccano model, following the given instructions and had it come out like the picture on the box?
ever built a lego or meccano model, following the given instructions and had it come out like the picture on the box?
- KVRAF
- 9590 posts since 17 Sep, 2002 from Gothenburg Sweden
You could probably pick it up in half an hour. I'm not even kidding,it isn't that much to learn.
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- KVRian
- 1107 posts since 31 Oct, 2002 from the high desert
That does not look like the most beginner friendly kit to start with-no instructions, just schematics and PC diagrams, but other than soldering skills, you just need to be able to tell a resistor from a transistor...
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Sound Mechanics Sound Mechanics https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=54454
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1663 posts since 10 Jan, 2005 from UK
Yes, if you could please. Sorry I should of checked the forum headings.Hink wrote:we have a diy forum here at kvr, do you want this moved there?
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Sound Mechanics Sound Mechanics https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=54454
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1663 posts since 10 Jan, 2005 from UK
Yes.vurt wrote:can you solder?
ever built a lego or meccano model, following the given instructions and had it come out like the picture on the box?
But I have read that it can become very complex, especially if trying to be original.
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Sound Mechanics Sound Mechanics https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=54454
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1663 posts since 10 Jan, 2005 from UK
Are you kidding me?jupiter8 wrote:You could probably pick it up in half an hour. I'm not even kidding,it isn't that much to learn.
- KVRAF
- 8109 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK
I'd certainly start with something smaller, just easier to debug if there's a problem. Maybe one of those cheap kits Maplin do? (dice, sound generators etc). If you like abrasive tones then look for an Atari Punk Console kit (or build one just from the (very simple) schematic if you fancy a challenge
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If you're serious about this then maybe a decent book could help, I had a flick through the Make: Electronics book (http://www.makershed.com/Make_Electroni ... /mkbk2.htm) and it seems a good fun intro to all things electronic. There's a Dummies guide around too that ain't too shabby.
If you're serious about this then maybe a decent book could help, I had a flick through the Make: Electronics book (http://www.makershed.com/Make_Electroni ... /mkbk2.htm) and it seems a good fun intro to all things electronic. There's a Dummies guide around too that ain't too shabby.
- KVRAF
- 9590 posts since 17 Sep, 2002 from Gothenburg Sweden
Nope. There aren't that much to learn actually. Obviously you wouldn't be any good after half an hour but the basic skills doesn't really take longer.Hemmick Reef wrote:Are you kidding me?jupiter8 wrote:You could probably pick it up in half an hour. I'm not even kidding,it isn't that much to learn.
I learned soldering by watching a youtube video. Takes some practice and i don't have steady hands but it's pretty simple.
As for components there aren't that many.
Resistors:can go either way (IE doesn't matter which way you put them). Value is described by colored rings. Just google it.
Transistors: 3 legs. You need to know which leg is which. Just check the data sheet which is which.
Capacitors: can go either way (except for electrolytes,they have polarity,get it wrong and they blow up in your face)
ICs: just check the data sheet which way is up. There's usually a notch there i believe.
Diodes: 2 legs. Electricity goes one way but not the other. Obviously you need them the right way around.
What else is there ?
You need to be really really careful and methodical and if you do something wrong (which is what you try to avoid by being careful and methodical) you'll have a hard time in the beginning but it gets easier.
The basic skills takes no time to learn but to get skilled and understanding what the circuit actually does takes years.
You probably would want to start with something simpler though. On the other hand a kit like that isn't actually harder just more ways to mess up.
- addled muppet weed
- 111286 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
well, yes, to be original you may want some deeper knowledge.Hemmick Reef wrote:Yes.vurt wrote:can you solder?
ever built a lego or meccano model, following the given instructions and had it come out like the picture on the box?
But I have read that it can become very complex, especially if trying to be original.
but that comes under designing your own circuits, not following someone elses design.
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- KVRian
- 653 posts since 4 Apr, 2010
Part of it is just having the patience to put together a kit (model car, Ikea furniture...), and part is learning how to solder. Be sure to buy a quality soldering iron. It's not matter of just being hot—it's easy enough to fry semiconductors or lift trades with out-of-control heat. Beyond that, it's mainly a matter of learning how to heat up things up enough to bond the solder, and not get cold solder joints by blobbing it on. Do yourself a favor and get good wire stripper and a clipper and something to hold the board (and leave you with a hand for solder and hand for the iron without the target moving around on you).Hemmick Reef wrote:Hi,
I was wondering how long it would take to build up enough knowledge in electronics to build something like this:
http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/anal ... page1.html#
A good iron will last a long time. I made a mountain of modular synth kits, kit amps, my circuit boards, etc. 20-40 years ago. It's been mostly software since, but right now the same old Weller WTCPN is fired up for the last wiring of a little circuit board I made yesterday to adapt a foot pedal to MIDI control...
My audio DSP blog: earlevel.com
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- KVRAF
- 16738 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
This is really the crux of the matter. If all goes well, it takes very little knowledge. The knowledge becomes important when you are trying to figure out what went wrong and the skill matters when you are trying to undo mistakes.GaryG wrote:I'd certainly start with something smaller, just easier to debug if there's a problem.
- Beware the Quoth
- 35438 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- addled muppet weed
- 111286 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
With this book, you'll learn:
The differences between analog and digital synthesizers