What's up everyone,
I'm wondering, where do you find those really punchy rap claps that you'd always hear in 90s rap and some pop songs? Please don't suggest vengeance cause they aren't in there! And please don't suggest sampling from these tracks either, I'd rather get them from sample packs or better yet make them on my own. Here are some examples:
I think you get the idea, Max Martin used to use them a lot back in the day too.
All help is appreciated, thanks!
Where to find 90s style punchy rap claps?
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- KVRAF
- 2581 posts since 18 Apr, 2011
Nexus HipHop Expansion has some nice drumkits, also the Nexus Vintage Drumkits XP
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- KVRian
- 518 posts since 28 Dec, 2007 from The Netherlands
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- Banned
- 12367 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
i believe "that sound" started by layering the clap with the snare. give it a boost in the mids (the first time i used a low end mackie mixer, the mid was at the right frequency).
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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- KVRian
- 1278 posts since 24 May, 2004
Yeah definitely snare layering, and I would also guess tube distortion or saturation followed by an EQ.
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- KVRian
- 652 posts since 28 Dec, 2011 from Seattle,WA, USA
Man I miss Biggie. Its hard to believe its really been almost 16 years! Life After Death is still an amazing album after all of these years too. I had this song stuck in my head last night. Anyway 90s hip hop especially the eastcoast stuff was all about break beats. These sounds were chopped up from open drum sections on vinyl and sampled at low resolution samplers in the case of going back to Cali Mpc 60s and SP1200s and just layered one shots from vinyl. I think this clap came from a Cameo song. I recognize the sound but I cannot remember its title. The other song is a layered snare and clap hit in a similar fashion. That said start buying records and finding sounds you like from them to get that sound. Its hard to recreate it with online sample packs.emerable wrote:What's up everyone,
I'm wondering, where do you find those really punchy rap claps that you'd always hear in 90s rap and some pop songs? Please don't suggest vengeance cause they aren't in there! And please don't suggest sampling from these tracks either, I'd rather get them from sample packs or better yet make them on my own. Here are some examples:
I think you get the idea, Max Martin used to use them a lot back in the day too.
All help is appreciated, thanks!
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- Banned
- 12367 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
thought more about this, eventually felt pretty stupid after all this time.
yup! you will too. i finally found out where they get all these sounds from. now, i'm going to tell you and you'll know too.
some asshole is going to take this, run with it and release a sample pack of ripoffs and people who don't know are going to think it's brilliant, so the only way to prevent that is for you to tell other people first.
three words: run run shaw
i watched some documentaries and the only documentation i found that wasn't w.o.m. had a very simple setup - there were about five foley performers, only two pertinent to blows. one had a catcher's mitt and some kind of small glove on the other hand, the other had about a 20" section of 2x4 and a smaller striker.. hard to discern, may have been an 16" section of 2x1/2.. thinner at any rate.
the other guys were waving a towel, doing swish sounds, and a guy shuffling objects on a bit of board for footwork, all arranged close around the mic. this was the 1970s so the signal chain here is extremely simple.
you may wish to note that shaw studios never recorded sound on location - all speech is added later, so all shaw movies are "clean".
i did see an electronic machine used, c. 83, i'd presume samples. maybe shaw movies from 83 84 have "that" sound.
after years of being aware of this trope, i'd defer to sampling over any synthesis - a lot of the hits have breathing et c. in them that made these sounds what they are.. emulation at that level would be tedious.
i did some sample gathering and the majority of these movies have a sharp drop above 5k. check movies by different studios for variation.. eg. golden harvest.
saw a lot of things online about smacking sausages against counters, packing things full of chicken bones et al, watermelons, i think these are really excuses to talk about sausages and waste produce. the only layering i heard was a whip - those are good hits if you can find them.
this is probably going to be the lousiest time you ever had recording samples
some keen analog synthesis too.. spotted digital synthesis in a 77 flick ('two warriors' iirc)
i haven't checked any american films, i believe there's a different foley paradigm ("every hit in that film sounded like someone beating a naugahyde sofa with a baseball bat") more watermelons and yogurt, more spending.
yup! you will too. i finally found out where they get all these sounds from. now, i'm going to tell you and you'll know too.
some asshole is going to take this, run with it and release a sample pack of ripoffs and people who don't know are going to think it's brilliant, so the only way to prevent that is for you to tell other people first.
three words: run run shaw
i watched some documentaries and the only documentation i found that wasn't w.o.m. had a very simple setup - there were about five foley performers, only two pertinent to blows. one had a catcher's mitt and some kind of small glove on the other hand, the other had about a 20" section of 2x4 and a smaller striker.. hard to discern, may have been an 16" section of 2x1/2.. thinner at any rate.
the other guys were waving a towel, doing swish sounds, and a guy shuffling objects on a bit of board for footwork, all arranged close around the mic. this was the 1970s so the signal chain here is extremely simple.
you may wish to note that shaw studios never recorded sound on location - all speech is added later, so all shaw movies are "clean".
i did see an electronic machine used, c. 83, i'd presume samples. maybe shaw movies from 83 84 have "that" sound.
after years of being aware of this trope, i'd defer to sampling over any synthesis - a lot of the hits have breathing et c. in them that made these sounds what they are.. emulation at that level would be tedious.
i did some sample gathering and the majority of these movies have a sharp drop above 5k. check movies by different studios for variation.. eg. golden harvest.
saw a lot of things online about smacking sausages against counters, packing things full of chicken bones et al, watermelons, i think these are really excuses to talk about sausages and waste produce. the only layering i heard was a whip - those are good hits if you can find them.
this is probably going to be the lousiest time you ever had recording samples
some keen analog synthesis too.. spotted digital synthesis in a 77 flick ('two warriors' iirc)i haven't checked any american films, i believe there's a different foley paradigm ("every hit in that film sounded like someone beating a naugahyde sofa with a baseball bat") more watermelons and yogurt, more spending.
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 63 posts since 20 Dec, 2012
Wow, that's pretty elaborate. So smacking sausages on counters makes the sound? And hitting things with baseball bats? You seem pretty certain about this.xoxos wrote:[lots of text]
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- Banned
- 12367 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
so.. you think your sausage is better than mine, huh?
http://www.xoxos.net/temp/sausage.zip
these are selected because of the vocal overdub check them out, then go listen to the tracks in your first post again. ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!
when you find some good samples, i'd also recommend changing the bitdepth and sampling rate.
http://www.xoxos.net/temp/sausage.zip
these are selected because of the vocal overdub
check them out, then go listen to the tracks in your first post again. ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!when you find some good samples, i'd also recommend changing the bitdepth and sampling rate.
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 63 posts since 20 Dec, 2012
Interesting, I think number 6 sounds the closest.xoxos wrote:so.. you think your sausage is better than mine, huh?
http://www.xoxos.net/temp/sausage.zip
these are selected because of the vocal overdub
when you find some good samples, i'd also recommend changing the bitdepth and sampling rate.
Can you go into more detail about how I could create this at home? I have a field recorder
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drinkthecoolaid drinkthecoolaid https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=293796 - KVRist
- 55 posts since 7 Dec, 2012
Try mixing a 909 clap or a 808 snare w/ a sampled snare... Then try bussing it to an aux channel with distortiion or gated reverb.. Then E.Q. if needed. That usually works.
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